# Way to do Iowa. Women's bodies are a sin and we men can't help ourselves.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [December 22, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851 "2012-12-22T17:41:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author: ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/121 "2012-12-27T23:43:31Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> If he actually tried to have sex with her, she’d have a harassment case against him. Otherwise, as noted in the GD thread, there are only 7 states that are not “at will” employment, and Iowa isn’t one of them. You don’t need cause to fire someone, although you can’t discriminate against a protected class.. Frankly, I don’t see that it should be otherwise.

I think the quote “once telling her that if his pants were bulging that was a sign her clothes were too revealing” should be sufficient grounds for a harassment suit.

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### Author: ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/122 "2012-12-28T00:07:37Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> **Shayna** is apparently unaware that some people don’t live in… whatever state she lives in.

Probably ‘the state of denial’.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/123 "2012-12-28T04:58:51Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> How do you know the dentist is not bisexual?

:eek: **Please** do not offer unwelcome disturbances to traditional porn-conventions!

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/124 "2012-12-28T05:00:26Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The hygienists at my dentist’s office wear scrubs, which can be surprisingly sexy on the right person.

Meh. Don’t want no scrubs. Calling from the passenger side of his best friend’s ride . . .

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### Author: ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/125 "2012-12-28T10:18:53Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> It was far from an ideal situation, but personally I would prefer any Medical professional who is drilling inside my head to take whatever steps required to remove potential distractions.

The bulge in your pants for instance?

Yeah, he could have been bisexual. I think the onus should be on him to demonstrate that her gender was unrelated to his perceptions of her attractiveness.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/126 "2012-12-28T15:16:37Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> It was far from an ideal situation, but personally I would prefer any Medical professional who is drilling inside my head to take whatever steps required to remove potential distractions.

I’d prefer a medical professional who’s capable of functioning outside a hermetically sealed ugly vault.

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### Author: ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/127 "2012-12-28T16:24:28Z")

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I’ve never understood people suing over getting fired. If the employer doesn’t want you, what do you think forcing your way back in will accomplish? Even if he was forced to rehire the woman, all he would need to do is reorganize under a different business name and the slate is wiped clean.

Employment is an an agreement between employer and employee, the employee works and the employer pays the employee for said work. Employers aren’t forced to hire and employees aren’t forced to work. By the same token, both are free to end the agreement at any time that it no longer suits them.

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### Author: ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/128 "2012-12-28T16:54:41Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I’ve never understood people suing over getting fired. If the employer doesn’t want you, what do you think forcing your way back in will accomplish? Even if he was forced to rehire the woman, all he would need to do is reorganize under a different business name and the slate is wiped clean.
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> Employment is an an agreement between employer and employee, the employee works and the employer pays the employee for said work. Employers aren’t forced to hire and employees aren’t forced to work. By the same token, both are free to end the agreement at any time that it no longer suits them.

That’s all true, but some reasons for getting fired are more valid than others. If you can’t do the work or have a lousy attitude or are insubordinate or are losing the company customers or are stealing - all valid reasons. Being attractive and your boss not being able to handle it - not a valid reason.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-do-iowa-womens-bodies-are-a-sin-and-we-men-cant-help-ourselves/644851/129 "2012-12-28T17:12:15Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I’ve never understood people suing over getting fired. If the employer doesn’t want you, what do you think forcing your way back in will accomplish? Even if he was forced to rehire the woman, all he would need to do is reorganize under a different business name and the slate is wiped clean.

People very rarely request injunctive relief in wrongful termination suits. They are generally content to get paid.

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