# Way to set an example for the kids, assholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691 "2011-04-25T18:51:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/41 "2011-04-27T16:37:29Z")
Those people in the OP are called “ruiners” - they do as they please, and they ruin it for everybody. Don’t be a ruiner. (I’ll run this thread by my construction safety officer husband and see if he wants to tell you the million ways that you can hurt your kids by letting them into a construction site that isn’t opened to the public yet.) ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/42 "2011-04-27T21:23:08Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > not to mention that maybe some of the equipment isn’t as safe as it will be when complete? > [@MissTake](#): > > And you know if little Kadenn or Bhrittaniey gets hurt, their parents will sue the bejeebers out of the city, claiming they didn’t know what the orange fence meant. \*\*Cat Whisperer’s \*\*hubby checking in… To elaborate on what **China Guy** and **MissTake** said – the builder is liable for any and all injuries that happen on their worksite, no matter what unbelievably stupid things people have done to get onto the site. The builder needed to ensure no trespassers were in there. If there is unfinished equipment in there that the project engineers haven’t commisioned, it could collapse and injure kids, resulting in massive liability. Plus there’s the posibility of screws, nails, saw blades, open holes (big and small – a 4" pipe penetration is plenty big enough to catch a foot and break an ankle), live wires, wet paint, thinners, unfinished and sharp fiberglass or steel edges, broken glass, or missing guardrails with potentially fatal fall potential from the 25’ towers. And a kagillion other things too. Hell, if someone trips and falls while going over the smashed-down fence, a lawsuit will almost certainly follow. Every one of the asshole parents who crossed that fence shold have been arrested and charged with felony trespassing and endangering minors. A few thousand dollars in fines or a weekend in jail might get their attention. Fucking idiots. I’d also say the construction company should be allowed to TASER each and every one of them right in the gonads, but for some reason that is apparently frowned upon. The construction company has to accept responsibility here too. If a job isn’t complete, as I mentioned above, they must see to it that the site is secure. If they’re just using that cheap mesh to fence the location, they absolutely have to keep an eye on it and ensure it remains up and secure by either having someone checking in every few hours or by stationing security there 24/7 – whatever it takes. Anything less opens them up to a world of negligence litigation, and nobody wants that. As to the comments about the time and cost, well, those things don’t seem all that out of line, from a commerical construction perspective, particularly when it sounds like most of this new playground is made of one-off custom designed materials. Demolishing the old playground and doing the rough grade for the landscaping to start the projct probably took weeks, using heavy equipment that costs hundreds of dollars a day (or possibly thousands) to operate. It could easily be 2 or 3 months of just pushing dirt around before the site is even ready to have anything built on it. Fabricating the parts as custom items is also a huge expense. And then putting it all together always takes longer than it seems like it should – with a project like this, you are learning as you go, with some things fitting together just the way they should and other things simply not. And then there’s the weather, making it impossible to dig or build for days at a time. Add in all the design costs, engineering consults, labour costs, and so forth, and you get to $1.2 million and more than a year in a hurry. I would say the price tag and timeline sound pretty bang on to me. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/43 "2011-05-01T19:49:13Z")
I _told_ them to put land mines just inside the fence to prevent this kind of thing. Damn fools! ---
**Author:** ![pkd88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pkd88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkd88)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/44 "2011-05-01T20:37:05Z")
They should consider surrounding the construction site with two layers of razor wire. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/45 "2011-05-01T23:10:40Z")
> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#): > > Plus there’s the posibility of screws, nails, saw blades, open holes (big and small – a 4" pipe penetration is plenty big enough to catch a foot and break an ankle), live wires, wet paint, thinners, unfinished and sharp fiberglass or steel edges, broken glass, or missing guardrails with potentially fatal fall potential from the 25’ towers. And a kagillion other things too. See, a park like this seems interesting. The other not so much. But I was more of a ‘Meccano’ kid rather than ‘Lego’. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/46 "2011-05-02T04:36:05Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I _told_ them to put land mines just inside the fence to prevent this kind of thing. Damn fools! If they do the fencing right, it will keep the ravenous wolves in. > [@Uzi](#): > > See, a park like this seems interesting. The other not so much. But I was more of a ‘Meccano’ kid rather than ‘Lego’. I’m sure a lot of kids would enjoy a park like that; too bad about our litigious society. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/47 "2011-05-02T04:38:32Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > If they do the fencing right, it will keep the ravenous wolves in… 🙂 I see your point, though in principle I don’t like the idea of putting fences between ravenous wolves and children. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/48 "2011-05-02T04:45:22Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I see your point, though in principle I don’t like the idea of putting fences between ravenous wolves and children. 😛 Won’t _someone_ think of the wolves? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/49 "2011-05-02T04:48:15Z")
Damn - what WAS I thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/50 "2011-05-02T07:21:27Z")
> [@](#): > > Fucking idiots. I’d also say the construction company should be allowed to TASER each and every one of them right in the gonads, but for some reason that is apparently frowned upon. I think that a good tasering to the gonads would help prevent a great deal of dumbassery, or at least repeated dumbassery. Because nothing says “YOU’RE A FUCKING IDIOT!!1!!” like a good jolt to the nads. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/51 "2011-05-02T12:53:32Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Next year we drop Peeps! I misread that as “Next year we drop Pepsi!” and the mental image of dropping full cans and bottles was much more entertaining than Peeps. ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691/52 "2011-05-02T18:39:40Z")
The Mrs was doing a report on parent-child interactions in public. She was at an outdoor shopping complex where there was a fountain for kids surrounded by outdoor restaurants and coffee shops. There was a parent sitting with her back to the fountain and smoking a cigarette (in a smoke-free area). Her kid started yelling “Mom!” across the area. Getting no response he yelled louder, and still getting no response headed towards her. When he tapped her on the shoulder she yelled, “I heard you! Can’t you see I’m trying to talk to someone?!” :rolleyes: Wow. Way to set an example for the kids, asshole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-to-set-an-example-for-the-kids-assholes/579691.md?page=2)