# Way too early College Football chatter **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 6, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504 "2014-07-06T23:24:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/81 "2014-08-25T20:03:50Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > That’s kind of an interesting concept! I like it. Deeply, fatally flawed, of course…but interesting. True on both counts. If you do some close scrutiny of [http://collegefootballbelt.com/Seasons.htm](http://collegefootballbelt.com/Seasons.htm) you’ll probably see how it weaves in and out of the hands of the National Champion during the BCS era. So it’s not as fanciful as it might seem at first. The fact that Oklahoma has it until somebody rips it from them (perhaps this season – perhaps within the first few weeks even) makes for some fun side bets if that sort of thing excites you. Not long ago (I’ll try to find it after I post this) I had a survey of how The Belt figured in with the “official” National Champs. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/82 "2014-08-25T20:11:47Z")
It’s very analogous to a heavyweight championship belt (not coincidentally, of course), and you would think that if a boxing championship can pass from one to another upon defeat, why not a football championship? That line of thought minimizes the “any given Saturday” effect – and that a single loss does not necessarily mean that a team is no longer The Best. (Shoot, my team – University of California Golden Bears – held the belt briefly in 1993. That was a darned good team; possibly great, if they hadn’t lost their QB for a mid-season stretch. But no way are they a worthy linear descendent of the 1971 Nebraska Cornhuskers) ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/83 "2014-08-25T20:13:57Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Not long ago (I’ll try to find it after I post this) I had a survey of how The Belt figured in with the “official” National Champs. Well, “not long ago” works in my mind, but… > **[College Football Belt Holders vs. BCS Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=637189)** > > Using as sources for the data … http://collegefootballbelt.com/Seasons.htm … here’s a summary of how the two systems vary in terms of National Champion at the time of the BCS Championship Games Entries marked “\<\<\<\<\<\<\<” are... College Football Belt Holders vs. BCS Champs 01-03-2012, 05:15 PM …it’s been over two years. Anyway, the survey needs some updating. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/84 "2014-08-25T21:44:54Z")
I hear Lane Kiffen has wound up at Alabama. That should cost them a shot at the title. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/85 "2014-08-25T21:54:22Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I hear Lane Kiffen has wound up at Alabama. That should cost them a shot at the title. 😃 SMH. I don’t know (a) how that guy keeps finding work; and (b) what Saban was thinking. This should be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/86 "2014-08-26T01:34:53Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > SMH. I don’t know (a) how that guy keeps finding work; and (b) what Saban was thinking. This should be interesting. There’s a new, untested QB, so 70% of the game plan is going to be “give the ball to Yelden & other RBs behind a big O line”. Even Kiffen can’t screw that up. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/87 "2014-08-26T04:04:31Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Even Kiffen can’t screw that up. Just watch and learn. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/88 "2014-08-29T01:39:27Z")
Are we gonna start an in-season thread? That A&M - Scar game deserves a little discussin’. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/89 "2014-08-29T02:35:19Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > Are we gonna start an in-season thread? That A&M - Scar game deserves a little discussin’. Sounds like a good idea. I nominate you to start it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/90 "2014-08-29T02:49:40Z")
To those of you proud of Notre Dame for suspending the players for cheating, two questions: 1. You do realize Notre Dame wasn’t going to contend for a NC, right? And if they WERE, this would’ve been brushed under the rug. 2. In another thread, I was criticized for my belief that players should put academics ahead of athletics. You can’t have it both ways, which is it? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/91 "2014-08-29T13:38:37Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > Are we gonna start an in-season thread? That A&M - Scar game deserves a little discussin’. There might be a weekly discussion as part of Oak’s Pick-em thread. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/92 "2014-08-29T17:07:37Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > There might be a weekly discussion as part of Oak’s Pick-em thread. I know and I’d rather not spread us too thin. There ain’t that many of us college football fans here on the Dope. Anybody else got thoughts? Should we have one massive 2014 college football thread? Or just discuss things in the pick em threads week by week? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/93 "2014-08-29T17:13:15Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > I know and I’d rather not spread us too thin. There ain’t that many of us college football fans here on the Dope. Anybody else got thoughts? Should we have one massive 2014 college football thread? Or just discuss things in the pick em threads week by week? I seriously doubt that we could reach a consensus on the various ways to discuss CFB so I suggest just go with what feels right on a personal level. I plan to continue with the weekly AP Top Ten “Pick the Losers” polls and they may serve as a gathering place – or not. Or we could just keep piling on here as if it’s “never too early” and just ignore the thread title. If it gets topheavy we could start another thread. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/94 "2014-08-29T19:04:25Z")
Howard Johnson is right! I’ll post insults and taunts in whatever threads we use. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/95 "2014-08-30T04:00:23Z")
> [@AncientHumanoid](#): > > Howard Johnson is right! > > I’ll post insults and taunts in whatever threads we use. 😉 Ok I went for it: [2014 College Football General Thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17685850#post17685850) Only because of the Blazing Saddles reference. Please drop in on my thread. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504/96 "2014-08-30T05:52:58Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > Ok I went for it: [2014 College Football General Thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17685850#post17685850) Only because of the Blazing Saddles reference. Please drop in on my thread. Will there be Schnitzengruben? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-too-early-college-football-chatter/692504.md?page=4)