# Ways in which you are annoyingly pedantic

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-in-which-you-are-annoyingly-pedantic/999676
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [April 1, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-in-which-you-are-annoyingly-pedantic/999676 "2024-04-01T14:12:18Z")
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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
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And people who write about giving someone “free reign”.

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> My apartment is totally organized, and everything has its exact place.

While things are not totally organized, everything does have it’s place, or close to it. My Wife does tend to do a little randomness, in that I wonder, is this a plan? Is this where this goes now?

Guess who misplaces her glasses and car-keys. I know her well enough, I find them on the search.

I can’t remember the last time I misplaced anything (wallet, keys, sunglasses, TV remote) that kind of stuff). It goes in it’s place. No where else will do. That’s where they go.

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> People who use “logon” and “logoff” as verbs when writing something.

> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Our IT guy will tell me to logoff my work computer.

Hmmm…

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What am I missing here. Log off? Instead of logoff?

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Yes. Hence “logoffing” instead of “logging off”, and “logoffed” instead of “logged off”.

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Mrs. Hogwallop up and L-O-G-G-O-F-T!

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> [@enipla](#):
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> What am I missing here. Log off? Instead of logoff? &nbsp;

You’d use two words when you say, “I will log on” or “can you log on?”, when you’re using “log on” as a verb, denoting action. When you mean a noun, such as “your logon isn’t working”, it’s a single word.

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I can’t remember the last time I misplaced anything (wallet, keys, sunglasses, TV remote) that kind of stuff). It goes in it’s place. No where else will do. That’s where they go.

Ah, a kindred soul in the quest for organization and order! LOL

My SiL is like your wife. If you noticed my thread about her lost passport that was found weeks later in a drawer full of cooking utensils, no further example is necessary. LOL

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
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> > People who use “logon” and “logoff” as verbs when writing something.
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> I dislike the very use of those terms. Our IT guy will tell me to logoff my work computer. But when I right click the START button, none of the options are “logoff.”

The people you’re complaining about may go back to the days when you logged off by typing in the command LOGOFF (as one word). If I remember from my college days using VAX/VMS, you’d end a session by typing LOGOFF (or LOGOUT or anything else starting with the four letters LOGO).

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### Author: ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)
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And I admit my ignorance - I do not know i my IT guy writes logoff as 1 word or 2. And I have no personal preference. Instead, my preferred usage would likely be, “turn the damned thing off.” 😉

So, does “logoff/log off” mean for me to sign out, or to shut the computer down?

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> So, does “logoff/log off” mean for me to sign out, or to shut the computer down?

That depends on your system. For our computers, you can log off while leaving the computer running, so that someone else can log on quicker.

That would be logging off of your account while not shutting the computer down.

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I’d never survive a pistol duel where they instruct us combatants to take ten _paces_, turn and fire, because the other person would take ten _steps_ as done in movies and television, and I’d only be halfway done.

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> So, does “logoff/log off” mean for me to sign out, or to shut the computer down?

I would have thought either fulfill a “log off” instruction. “Sleep” I think depends on how you have your system set up.

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I would have thought either fulfill a “log off” instruction.

But they aren’t the same, are they? To me, they come across as “sign out” vs “sign out and turn the computer off.”

ISTR in the past there have been times that I have signed out of my account and back in - what I believe our computers call “restart”, to be told that I need to sign off and shut down.

(The options given are sign out, sleep, shut down, restart.)

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> People who use “presently” to mean now, and “momentarily” to mean soon.

You DO NOT want to visit southern Africa.

“Now” is sort of soon, like the event may happen within a few hours.

“Now now” is indeterminate, some time in the mid-to-near future. The event may happen within a few hours or a few days. Or immediately.

“Soon” is also indeterminate, some time in the future, but unpredictable. The event may happen within a few days, or a few weeks.

Then we get to “Soon soon” which is less than an hour (roughly), kind of closer in time to “now”, but more accurate.

Then we have “a long time” which is more clear, but is also very flexible as a measure. You could squeeze a “long time” into a “Now now” without much difficulty, despite the change of units.

We who live here understand the system, but for anyone else it is batshit insane.

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Pace (OED):

I A step, and derived senses.

1. A single separate movement made by the leg in walking, running, or dancing; a step.

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In general usage paces might be used to mean steps, but in Boy Scouts I was taught that when using paces to measure distance the accepted convention is that 1 pace = 2 steps. So when counting paces, if you take your first step with your right foot, then every time your left foot hits the ground you count one pace.

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If you are using Windows, while depressing the “alt” key type 0176. °

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Now, that’s a commitment to pedantry you don’t often see. Bravo! (Or brava—I can’t be sure based on currently available facts.)

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Is there bravx?

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