# Ways to irritate Trump supporters?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 28, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295 "2016-11-28T17:11:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/61 "2016-11-29T23:24:04Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> The answer to your consternation, dear **BPC** , is not that these people are immune to facts and reason. And it’s not that they are, as you so love to proclaim, stupid. It’s that they have a completely different value system, and they care as little about the facts and ideas you are concerned about as you care about the things they value and are concerned about.

Well, it’d be nice if the things they valued were _facts_, now and then.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/62 "2016-11-29T23:31:24Z")

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> [@Me\_Billy](#):
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> I’ve been thinking of ways to irritate Trump supporters…
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> Maybe any time someone mentions Trump, I will give the Hitler salute, click my heels, and say “Heil Trump!” 😃

THEY already do that.

[http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html?_r=0)

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> Alt-Right Gathering Exults in Trump Election **With Nazi-Era Salute**
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> …  
> he began to tell the audience of more than 200 people, mostly young men, what they had been waiting to hear. He railed against Jews and, with a smile, quoted Nazi propaganda in the original German. America, he said, belonged to white people, whom he called the “children of the sun,” a race of conquerors and creators who had been marginalized but now, in the era of President-elect Donald J. Trump, were “awakening to their own identity.”
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> As he finished, several audience members had their arms outstretched in a Nazi salute. Mr. Spencer called out: “Hail Trump! Hail our people!” and then, “Hail victory!” — the English translation of the Nazi exhortation “Sieg Heil!” The room shouted back.
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> These are exultant times for the alt-right movement  
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**Author:** ![Lucky\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Lucky\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_Mike)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/63 "2016-11-30T00:50:31Z")

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To answer the Op’s question:

Exist. Speak. React Reasonably. Respond.

Don’t do it to annoy Trump supporters. Do it because it is the right thing to do.

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**Author:** ![Waxwinged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@Waxwinged](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waxwinged)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/64 "2016-11-30T01:17:20Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Trump supporters don’t just have different opinions. They’re stupid assholes who are making life worse for everyone.

Nope. They are your neighbors, family members, and, perhaps, closeted friends. Kindly name -1- way in which your life was changed for the worse so far, since he was elected, other than all the self-inflicted grief and general outrage, hmm?

While I, personally, think that Trump is a sad excuse of a human being with no morals to speak of, conflicts of interest out the wazoo, and emotional maturity of a badly socialized Pomeranian, that doesn’t change the fact that he’s president elect.

All we can do at this point is hope he does something bad enough to get impeached, and work towards a more manageable bucket of political crazies in 2 years.

Irritating/demonizing Trump supporters is simply pointless. Challenging and trying to change their particular views? That I can see. Going after them just because ZOMG THEY VOTED TRUMP OH THE HUMANITY? That does not make you, or those like you, better people.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/65 "2016-11-30T01:26:59Z")

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> [@Waxwinged](#):
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> While I, personally, think that Trump is a sad excuse of a human being with no morals to speak of, conflicts of interest out the wazoo, and emotional maturity of a badly socialized Pomeranian, that doesn’t change the fact that he’s president elect.

It doesn’t change the fact he was elected, but it tells us volumes about the people who voted for him.

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**Author:** ![Waxwinged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@Waxwinged](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waxwinged)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/66 "2016-11-30T01:34:06Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> It doesn’t change the fact he was elected, but it tells us volumes about the people who voted for him.

And demonizing/irritating them gets you… what exactly? Brownie points? Good feelings about how reasonable and well-educated you are?

It is nice to think that most people on here are above petty, pointless stirring of shit, but apologies if I am wrong.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/67 "2016-11-30T01:38:03Z")

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> [@Waxwinged](#):
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> Nope. They are your neighbors, family members, and, perhaps, closeted friends. Kindly name -1- way in which your life was changed for the worse so far, since he was elected, other than all the self-inflicted grief and general outrage, hmm?

One way my life has been affected is that I’ve been profoundly disgusted by the way Trump’s fascist fan club has taken his election to mean there’s no need to pretend to be decent human beings.

> **[Ten Days After: Harassment and Intimidation in the Aftermath of the Election](https://www.splcenter.org/20161129/ten-days-after-harassment-and-intimidation-aftermath-election)**
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> In the ten days following the election, there were almost 900 reports of harassment and intimidation from across the nation. Many harassers invoked Trump’s name during assaults, making it clear that the outbreak of hate stemmed in large part from his...

It’s quite likely the lives of the victims of all these attacks have been affected somewhat adversely by Trump’s election as well.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/68 "2016-11-30T01:47:02Z")

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\*\*Ways to irritate Trump supporters?  
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Burn a flag.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/69 "2016-11-30T02:18:21Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> This is another something the liberals are not getting, related to your point #1: People like me will vote for what we view as the best option, or the least bad option. I will admit my political views are definitely on the conservative side. But I’m not a member of any of the special interest conservative groups that keep getting bandied about. Racist? Hardly - my wife is Panamanian. White Supremacist? I hate those fuckers, and I do align with any hate group with them on their target list - just make me a supporter, not active in any way. Religious? Not by any stretch, sect, cult, dioceses or otherwise.

If you voted for Trump, then you voted for racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and religious fanaticism whether you want to admit it or not. You voted against your wife, and for the white supremacists you claim to hate.

And if you thought Trump was the best option you are at best completely irrational; and probably actually a bigot who is trying to pretend otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/70 "2016-11-30T02:25:15Z")

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> [@Waxwinged](#):
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> And demonizing/irritating them gets you… what exactly? Brownie points? Good feelings about how reasonable and well-educated you are?
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> It is nice to think that most people on here are above petty, pointless stirring of shit, but apologies if I am wrong.

They don’t need to be called and and ridiculed, but we shouldn’t pretend they didn’t do a terrible thing. Voting for Trump was inexcusable. Period. Especially since he is the antithesis of everything they give as a reason for doing so.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/71 "2016-11-30T02:39:08Z")

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> [@Waxwinged](#):
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> Nope. They are your neighbors, family members, and, perhaps, closeted friends. Kindly name -1- way in which your life was changed for the worse so far, since he was elected, other than all the self-inflicted grief and general outrage, hmm?

He’s not president yet, you fucking imbecile.

Jesus you people are stupid.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/72 "2016-11-30T03:12:06Z")

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It seems relatively easy to piss off a Trump supporter or conservative.

For instance, just remind them (like we have to do with **Starving Artist** ) that we don’t live in the 1950s anymore, and that them womenfolk and darkies can actually vote and make decisions now.

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**Author:** ![Waxwinged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@Waxwinged](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waxwinged)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/73 "2016-11-30T03:19:41Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> He’s not president yet, you fucking imbecile.
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> Jesus you people are stupid.

Learn to read a post before running your mouth, dear. I did say “president elect”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/74 "2016-11-30T03:27:14Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> It seems relatively easy to piss off a Trump supporter or conservative.
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> For instance, just remind them (like we have to do with **Starving Artist** ) that we don’t live in the 1950s anymore, and that them womenfolk and darkies can actually vote and make decisions now.

For the moment. Now that they are taking full control I expect the Republicans will “correct” that shortly.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/75 "2016-11-30T03:45:50Z")

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What possible rational argument can work with someone who believes that voting for a fascist is better than voting for a typical politician?

Trump is a fascist, plain and simple. He meets the definition in every criterion. You think this is an insult? You think that someone being a fascist is a bad thing? Then why did you vote for one?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/76 "2016-11-30T04:07:12Z")

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> [@Waxwinged](#):
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> Learn to read a post before running your mouth, dear. I did say “president elect”. 🙂

Yeah, and there is little way he can make the dimbulbs who voted for him have a worse life until he gains power.

Every single person who voted for Trump is either evil, ignorant, stupid, or an ideologically blind partisan. I think most are simply ignorant, in that they only listened with half an ear, so the misinformation campaign about Clinton worked on them.

The country is full of ignorant people. And Trumps simplistic message coupled with nonstop email coverage was an easy sell to them.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/77 "2016-11-30T05:21:02Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Billy’s gonna get his ass kicked one of these days.

“Do not anger us or we will beat you up.”

> [@SigMan](#):
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> Most of the Trump supporters are gun totin’ law abiding citizens so feel free to fuck with them moron.

“Do not anger us or we will shoot you.”

Yeah, I think that about covers it.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/78 "2016-11-30T05:28:12Z")

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Well, yes; the Republicans have been calling for violent attacks against the people who oppose them for years. Including Trump publicly calling for the murder of Hillary Clinton. But they are Republicans, so everyone lets it slide while ranting about how intolerant and impolite the Democrats are.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/79 "2016-11-30T05:51:08Z")

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Is it okay to just go out and grab 'em by the pussy yet?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/80 "2016-11-30T06:08:29Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> What possible rational argument can work with someone who believes that voting for a fascist is better than voting for a typical politician?

May I submit that the answer to your question is that they simply don’t believe Trump is a fascist. They also don’t believe he’s a racist. And they don’t believe he’s sexist.

Hard as it may be for those on your particular side of the aisle to believe, the left is not in fact the final word on who is or isn’t racist, racist, sexist, etc., etc., etc. There’s a whole half-country out there who thinks you’ve gone way overboard and resents the hell out of the way you are so quick to hurl insults and accusations of evil (and/or stupidity) at anyone and everyone who doesn’t see things the same way you do.

They think the stupidity lies in fashioning an education system where high school graduate unable to read or write but are damn sure thoroughly steeped in liberal-think and political correctness, beginning nowadays even in elementary school. They think it lies in letting violent criminals out of jail prematurely over and over and over again to prey on a populace that ought to be protected from them. They think it lies in demanding that we unquestioningly open our borders and deliberately expose ourselves to terrorists who we already know are intent on infiltrating our country along with peaceful Muslim immigrants, and they think extra stupidity lies in being called racist for objecting to this idiotic idea.

I could go on and on. There are probably dozens of areas where conservatives think liberals are every bit as stupid as liberals think conservatives are. But none of this matters a whit. Experience has shown over and over again that you’ll continue on your (currently not so merry) way, assailing and castigating everyone who sees things differently than you do and asking/demanding/wailing over and over again why so many people in this country are various forms of “-ists”, endlessly supportive of an infinite variety of “-ism”, when the reality is that most of them by far are none of those things and the real stupidity lies in your assessment of the situation.

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