# Ways to irritate Trump supporters? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 28, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295 "2016-11-28T17:11:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/81 "2016-11-30T06:48:15Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I could go on and on. And you do. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/82 "2016-11-30T16:08:06Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > May I submit that the answer to your question is that they simply don’t believe Trump is a fascist. They also don’t believe he’s a racist. And they don’t believe he’s sexist. > > Hard as it may be for those on your particular side of the aisle to believe, the left is not in fact the final word on who is or isn’t racist, racist, sexist, etc., etc., etc. There’s a whole half-country out there who thinks you’ve gone way overboard and resents the hell out of the way you are so quick to hurl insults and accusations of evil (and/or stupidity) at anyone and everyone who doesn’t see things the same way you do. > > They think the stupidity lies in fashioning an education system where high school graduate unable to read or write but are damn sure thoroughly steeped in liberal-think and political correctness, beginning nowadays even in elementary school. They think it lies in letting violent criminals out of jail prematurely over and over and over again to prey on a populace that ought to be protected from them. They think it lies in demanding that we unquestioningly open our borders and deliberately expose ourselves to terrorists who we already know are intent on infiltrating our country along with peaceful Muslim immigrants, and they think extra stupidity lies in being called racist for objecting to this idiotic idea. > > I could go on and on. There are probably dozens of areas where conservatives think liberals are every bit as stupid as liberals think conservatives are. But none of this matters a whit. Experience has shown over and over again that you’ll continue on your (currently not so merry) way, assailing and castigating everyone who sees things differently than you do and asking/demanding/wailing over and over again why so many people in this country are various forms of “-ists”, endlessly supportive of an infinite variety of “-ism”, when the reality is that most of them by far are none of those things and the real stupidity lies in your assessment of the situation. Very well stated, and quite accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/83 "2016-11-30T16:32:13Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Very well stated, and quite accurate. It’s like two very erudite mental patients reaching an accord about the feces mural they’re collaborating on. ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/84 "2016-11-30T16:48:55Z")
> [@Waxwinged](#): > > Nope. They are your neighbors, family members, and, perhaps, closeted friends. Kindly name -1- way in which your life was changed for the worse so far, since he was elected, other than all the self-inflicted grief and general outrage, hmm? My wife is an immigrant from a predominantly Muslim country. When she thinks about the fact her name will be on a list in the near future it angers her. She also sees how many Americans assume she is a 2nd class citizen. She worries her family will face difficulties in trying to visit us. You could perhaps be callous and say these worries are self-inflicted because nothing has actually happened, but how would you feel if millions of Americans happily voted for a person who normalized prejudice against some part of who you are? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/85 "2016-11-30T16:54:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Starving Artist > > They think the stupidity lies in fashioning an education system where high school graduate unable to read or write but are damn sure thoroughly steeped in liberal-think and political correctness, beginning nowadays even in elementary school. They think it lies in letting violent criminals out of jail prematurely over and over and over again to prey on a populace that ought to be protected from them. They think it lies in demanding that we unquestioningly open our borders and deliberately expose ourselves to terrorists who we already know are intent on infiltrating our country along with peaceful Muslim immigrants, and they think extra stupidity lies in being called racist for objecting to this idiotic idea. The frustrating part is that these things you say conservatives don’t like about liberal policy don’t actually exist. (at least in any significant way). Sure, some of our schools are failing, and there are issues with our immigration policy. You can even have rational disagreements about levels of incarceration. However, once you start saying things like “Liberals want people to be uneducated, criminals on the streets and the borders open,” you’re fighting a right wing fantasy of a liberal. ---
**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/86 "2016-11-30T17:07:49Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > However, once you start saying things like “Liberals want people to be uneducated, criminals on the streets and the borders open,” you’re fighting a right wing fantasy of a liberal. It’s just hilarious how some of these political extremist idiots rail at the conservative fantasy, oblivious to the fact they are the polar opposite of exactly what’s got their knickers in a twist to begin with. And they wonder how people can be _so stupid_. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/87 "2016-11-30T17:14:46Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > It’s just hilarious how some of these political extremist idiots rail at the conservative fantasy, oblivious to the fact they are the polar opposite of exactly what’s got their knickers in a twist to begin with. > > And they wonder how people can be _so stupid_. :rolleyes: At times there may be some truth to that, as you don’t often get conservatives saying we need to lock up women who have abortions, jail people for political expression, or ban a particular religion from entering the country. This year, we are quite justified in concluding the “conservative fantasy” and the Trump statements are pretty well aligned. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/88 "2016-11-30T17:29:21Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > My wife is an immigrant from a predominantly Muslim country. When she thinks about the fact her name will be on a list in the near future it angers her. She also sees how many Americans assume she is a 2nd class citizen. She worries her family will face difficulties in trying to visit us. You could perhaps be callous and say these worries are self-inflicted because nothing has actually happened, but how would you feel if millions of Americans happily voted for a person who normalized prejudice against some part of who you are? It’s not as though the President-elect has called for a total and complete ban on… Yeah, we elected a real fuckwad. He never did specify how he’d determine whom to ban- those who hail from Muslim areas who may not practice Islam would probably have to show their eagle and 'Murican flag tattoo. Her family has that, right? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/89 "2016-11-30T17:35:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > May I submit that the answer to your question is that they simply don’t believe Trump is a fascist. They also don’t believe he’s a racist. And they don’t believe he’s sexist. All of which underscores the argument that they are impervious to facts and reason. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Hard as it may be for those on your particular side of the aisle to believe, the left is not in fact the final word on who is or isn’t racist, racist, sexist, etc., etc., etc. There’s a whole half-country out there who thinks you’ve gone way overboard and resents the hell out of the way you are so quick to hurl insults and accusations of evil (and/or stupidity) at anyone and everyone who doesn’t see things the same way you do. Stop saying racists and sexist shit and we’ll stop calling you out on it. It’s simple, really. Try it. See how it works out for everybody. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > They think the stupidity lies in fashioning an education system where high school graduate unable to read or write but are damn sure thoroughly steeped in liberal-think and political correctness, beginning nowadays even in elementary school. They think it lies in letting violent criminals out of jail prematurely over and over and over again to prey on a populace that ought to be protected from them. They think it lies in demanding that we unquestioningly open our borders and deliberately expose ourselves to terrorists who we already know are intent on infiltrating our country along with peaceful Muslim immigrants, and they think extra stupidity lies in being called racist for objecting to this idiotic idea. None of which is factually true. But as you’ve illustrated, time and again, facts and evidence don’t penetrate their thick skulls. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I could go on and on. There are probably dozens of areas where conservatives think liberals are every bit as stupid as liberals think conservatives are. But none of this matters a whit. Experience has shown over and over again that you’ll continue on your (currently not so merry) way, assailing and castigating everyone who sees things differently than you do and asking/demanding/wailing over and over again why so many people in this country are various forms of “-ists”, endlessly supportive of an infinite variety of “-ism”, when the reality is that most of them by far are none of those things… Stop casting conservatives in with Trump supporters. Plenty of conservatives happen to be thoughtful and intelligent people and many of them are openly critical of Trump and his views. As a liberal, I may not agree with certain conservative ideology but I don’t think all conservatives are stupid. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > … and the real stupidity lies in your assessment of the situation. Oh, do tell. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/90 "2016-11-30T17:38:22Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Very well stated, and quite accurate. Do shut the fuck up. Adults are talking now. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/91 "2016-11-30T17:52:59Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Do shut the fuck up. Adults are talking now. They are? Where would that be? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/92 "2016-11-30T17:58:32Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > They are? Where would that be? Go sit back down at the children’t table. ---
**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/93 "2016-11-30T18:03:47Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Do shut the fuck up. Adults are talking now. I have yet to see evidence of this. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/94 "2016-11-30T18:04:21Z")
> [@](#): > > They are? Where would that be? On the moral high ground. Don’t bother looking for it, you wouldn’t recognize it if you saw it. ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/95 "2016-11-30T18:13:23Z")
**Sigene** , **UberArchetype** , **Starving Artist** , and others explaining the election to the arrogant liberals: You’ve only described why conservatives voted for Trump. Nobody gives a shit that conservatives voted for Trump. Of course they voted for the Republican nominee. It’s expected. When people discuss why Clinton lost the election, the topics of arrogance, hubris, etc are fitting for why the various groups that voted for Obama did not vote for Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/96 "2016-11-30T18:24:17Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > … So, yes, some are religious, some are racist, some are manipulated by right wing media. Some are probably stupid, and some–I assume–are good people. Some of them are rapists. > [@Lobohan](#): > > It’s like two very erudite mental patients reaching an accord about the feces mural they’re collaborating on. Goddamn that’s funny. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/97 "2016-11-30T18:57:19Z")
One of the OED definitions for the word “trump” is “to pass gas audibly”. I suggest doing your part to make this more common usage. ---
**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/98 "2016-11-30T20:23:34Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > When people discuss why Clinton lost the election, the topics of arrogance, hubris, etc are fitting for why the various groups that voted for Obama did not vote for Clinton. Yep. The voting public just decided to say a big FUCK YOU to politics, in general. Good for them. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/99 "2016-11-30T20:27:16Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Yep. The voting public just decided to say a big FUCK YOU to politics, in general. > > Good for them. 🆒 Jobs aren’t coming back. Enjoy your meth. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/100 "2016-11-30T20:53:04Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Yep. The voting public just decided to say a big FUCK YOU to politics, in general. The voting public decided to say _“Kill anyone who isn’t white! Rape any woman you catch! Kill the unbelievers! Kill the gays! Kill the liberals! Burn the world for Jesus!”_ Yeah,\* real\* admirable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295.md?page=6)