# Ways to irritate Trump supporters?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 28, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295 "2016-11-28T17:11:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/121 "2016-12-01T09:31:42Z")

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Call him Drumpfft.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/122 "2016-12-01T15:09:35Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I have to agree with **Starving Artist**. A big reason why the Democrats lost not only the presidency but also numerous Senate elections is because they don’t identify or resonate with the “common man” any more. Joe Six-pack is tired of being called the enemy in his own country, and voted for Trump out of retaliation.

Fuck Joe Sixpack.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/123 "2016-12-01T15:14:37Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Fuck Joe Sixpack.

Judging from the outcome, you have that backwards.

(The [Yakov Smirnoff joke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_reversal)practically writes itself.)

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/124 "2016-12-01T15:19:53Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Liberals call conservatives racist for all sorts of things that aren’t racist in any true sense of the word. They get called racist if they’re law and order types, because the war on drugs and the legal system is allegedly designed to target and punish black people. They get called racist if they advise blacks to cooperate when stopped by the cops, because blacks shouldn’t have to ‘bow and scrape’ to ‘the man’ for having committed the offense of ‘driving while black’. They get called racist if they object to welfare programs because instead of looking at the philosophies behind conservative objections to welfare programs, liberals simply take the position that because so many black people are on welfare, conservative opposition to it has to be racist in nature. Conservatives get called racist if they don’t like rap music or airwaves filled with filthy and misogynistic lyrics. Conservatives get called racist should they object to anything Obama, despite the fact that he’s a Democrat and they’re…you know…_Republicans_!..so of course they’re going to object to his goals and policies! That’s what they do with every Democrat president! But noooo, the only reason according to liberals anyone would object to anything having to do with Obama is racism!
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> And that’s just where it concerns black people. Conservatives also get called racist for objecting to illegal immigration. Despite the fact that almost every other country on earth has recognized the necessity of regulating immigration, when it comes to the U.S. the only reason in liberal eyes to limit immigration is racism. And then of course we get accusations of racism against Muslims, because we object to the notion of throwing our borders open willy-nilly to a large group of people that we already know contains would-be terrorists who are planning to attack us. But nooooo, we only object to Muslim immigration because we’re racists who hate ‘brown people’…you know…the same reason we supposedly hate Hispanics.
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> The list goes on and on. Basically, if you’re white and not liberal in your politics, it’s pretty much incontrovertible in the eyes of liberals that have to be racist, because not being liberals, how could you not be?

You’re a raving lunatic who’s become completely unhinged from reality.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/125 "2016-12-01T15:30:52Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> Judging from the outcome, you have that backwards.
> 
> (The [Yakov Smirnoff joke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_reversal)practically writes itself.)

Actually, Joe Sixpack fucked hiself. I can retire any time I want. I have my health and dental insurance - which i can keep upon retirement. I am in reasonably good health. I don’t have any debt except for a nearly paid off mortgage.

I’m not fucked, but Joe Sixpack is. His auto factory job and steel mill job is never coming back. His health and unemployment benefits will disappear, his job protections will disappear (if he is even still working), he’ll never get a pay increase, etc etc etc.

So he’s already fucked but just doesn’t know it.

And the jobs that are left will keep disappearing.

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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/126 "2016-12-01T16:54:06Z")

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hey Steve. can you tell me what you do for a living?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/127 "2016-12-01T17:33:25Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Joe Six-pack is tired of being called the enemy in his own country, and voted for Trump out of retaliation.

Stupidity and ignorance _are_ the enemies of America, at least until it goes full-theocracy.

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/128 "2016-12-01T17:36:05Z")

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Reaching a crescendo around the last Aug-September time-frame, the media, pundits and high-ranking elected government officials everywhere were wringing their hands about some sort of Republican/GOP crises. The cries were strident and alarming: The GOP as we know it is dead. Republican in-fighting is tearing the party apart. Unprecedented, etc, etc.

Now the other shoe has dropped.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/129 "2016-12-01T17:43:16Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> You’re a raving lunatic who’s become completely unhinged from reality.

Your silence in rebuke of the thread’s true raving lunatic completely unhinged from reality is noted, as is amusement at your hypocrisy and gall.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/130 "2016-12-01T18:03:50Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Liberals call conservatives racist for all sorts of things that aren’t racist in any true sense of the word. They get called racist if they’re law and order types, because the war on drugs and the legal system is allegedly designed to target and punish black people. They get called racist if they advise blacks to cooperate when stopped by the cops, because blacks shouldn’t have to ‘bow and scrape’ to ‘the man’ for having committed the offense of ‘driving while black’. They get called racist if they object to welfare programs because instead of looking at the philosophies behind conservative objections to welfare programs, liberals simply take the position that because so many black people are on welfare, conservative opposition to it has to be racist in nature. Conservatives get called racist if they don’t like rap music or airwaves filled with filthy and misogynistic lyrics. Conservatives get called racist should they object to anything Obama, despite the fact that he’s a Democrat and they’re…you know…_Republicans_!..so of course they’re going to object to his goals and policies! That’s what they do with every Democrat president! But noooo, the only reason according to liberals anyone would object to anything having to do with Obama is racism!

It is fair to bring out the racial aspects of drug laws that make crimes more typically committed by black people have much more severe punishment. Crack cocaine being 100 times more serious than powder cocaine, for example. It is also fair to question “get tough” policies in general, when it results in one of the highest incarceration rates in the world. It is fair to point out the impact that such policies have on racial minorities. That’s not calling a particular person “racist.” If I told you the policies you were advocating perpetuated institutional racism in this country, I would hope that you wouldn’t take it as a personal insult.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/131 "2016-12-01T18:05:33Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Reaching a crescendo around the last Aug-September time-frame, the media, pundits and high-ranking elected government officials everywhere were wringing their hands about some sort of Republican/GOP crises. The cries were strident and alarming: The GOP as we know it is dead. Republican in-fighting is tearing the party apart. Unprecedented, etc, etc.
> 
> Now the other shoe has dropped.

On the people that thought that they were voting for a “guy of the people” and that was going to “drain the swamp”.

And the OP is a Jerk too anyhow.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/132 "2016-12-01T19:33:47Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The irony of decrying the very thing you do in your post. Funny how it’s okay to stretch the definition if you do it.

The point I was making with my post is that, as **Starving Artist** communicated in his post, some liberals on this board (and elsewhere) shut down opposing opinions by calling them “racist” or “homophobic” or (my favorite) “BIGOT”. That is, they are highly intolerant of opinions that do not match what they think is right. Since, in today’s PC climate, being labeled a “racist” is worse than being labeled a “thieving drug addict”, this has the effect that makes people afraid to speak, which is just the effect that is intended. To steal another term from the liberal lexicon, this is just a way to disenfranchise those who do not agree with them 100%. What was the “basket of deplorables” comment intended to do if not make people who disagreed with her afraid to speak up and encourage her supporters to ostracize her opponents supporters?

I was not saying that if you don’t think like I do that I don’t want hear it. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I don’t think you should be shunned for having it.

So, I fail to see how this is ironic to my point.

> [@Merriam-Webster](#):
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> Definition of bigot
> 
> : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

And then point out that many liberals consider that most (if not all) Trump supporters are White, gun-toting, Christian Jim-Bob’s who live out in the sticks and drove their pick-up with the confederate flag in the back into town to vote. If those people aren’t defined as a racial and/or ethnic group, I am not sure who can be. And, if these liberals have any tolerance at all for Trump supporters, they do a great job of hiding it.

> [@](#):
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> The Webster definition is the definition liberals use. How the fuck do you think the definition got in there? Dictionaries discover the definition by looking at how words are actually used.

I wonder if you intend this to mean that only the definitions that liberals use can appear the Webster dictionary, or that only liberals contribute to the dictionary? (of course, you probably think anyone who can read must be a liberal)

If so, then they will have to amend a lot of their definitions.  
For example:

Bigot-One who, regardless of their tolerance of others and their opinions, hates brown-skinned people  
Racist-One who hates brown-skinned people regardless of race identity  
Xenophobic-One who hates brown-skinned people regardless of their origin

Hey, it might just be easier than I though.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/133 "2016-12-01T19:46:21Z")

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We need a Hitlergruß simile. I sense too many people are frustrated they can’t properly offer their respect to the new hamster-fisted fuhrer.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/134 "2016-12-01T19:49:06Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Actually, Joe Sixpack fucked hiself. I can retire any time I want. I have my health and dental insurance - which i can keep upon retirement. I am in reasonably good health. I don’t have any debt except for a nearly paid off mortgage.
> 
> I’m not fucked, but Joe Sixpack is. His auto factory job and steel mill job is never coming back. His health and unemployment benefits will disappear, his job protections will disappear (if he is even still working), he’ll never get a pay increase, etc etc etc.
> 
> So he’s already fucked but just doesn’t know it.
> 
> And the jobs that are left will keep disappearing.

Here’s Trump’s plan: Subsidize companies who threaten to send jobs to other countries with taxpayer dollars, like his brilliant deal with Carrier. Then, as automation destroys millions of jobs in retail, manufacturing and trucking, he’ll use what’s left of the tax base on incentives for companies that employ humans. Pretty soon, America will be as bankrupt as a Trump casino.

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**Author:** ![ShockingAlberto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@ShockingAlberto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShockingAlberto)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/135 "2016-12-01T20:05:30Z")

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It’s somewhat nice to know that all the Republicans complaining about safe spaces were just projecting.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/136 "2016-12-01T20:06:31Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Have you ever considered writing an autobiography? I’m sure many of us would love to learn what caused you to turn out like this.

He stated once that his mommy was not nice to him one time and she was a Christian so therefore ALL non-atheists are Evil Super Satans. When he’s not murdering white males he enjoys such hobbies as baking and murdering white males. Interesting fella.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/137 "2016-12-01T20:12:55Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Have you ever considered writing an autobiography? I’m sure many of us would love to learn what caused you to turn out like this.

Asks the Board’s preeminent Sandusky apologist.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/138 "2016-12-02T03:27:04Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Here’s Trump’s plan: Subsidize companies who threaten to send jobs to other countries with taxpayer dollars, like his brilliant deal with Carrier. Then, as automation destroys millions of jobs in retail, manufacturing and trucking, he’ll use what’s left of the tax base on incentives for companies that employ humans. Pretty soon, America will be as bankrupt as a Trump casino.

He won’t be subsidizing with my money. Here’s my strategy: we give to charities for various reasons, and take the deductions off our income tax. This year our income took a substantial jump because we’re having to start cashing out our IRAs, and so will our tax payment come April. We are doing an estimate this month of our upcoming tax burden and plan to write checks this month to charities in the amount of what we would normally write to the IRS, then take the deduction and try to get our tax bill close to zero. Hey, if it’s good enough for Tiny Hands, the Koch-suckers and other billionaires, it’s good enough for the common man.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/139 "2016-12-02T04:15:00Z")

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> [@Sigene](#):
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> hey Steve. can you tell me what you do for a living?

Electronic engineer.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/140 "2016-12-02T04:18:08Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> The point I was making with my post is that, as **Starving Artist** communicated in his post, some liberals on this board (and elsewhere) shut down opposing opinions by calling them “racist” or “homophobic” or (my favorite) “BIGOT”. That is, they are highly intolerant of opinions that do not match what they think is right. Since, in today’s PC climate, being labeled a “racist” is worse than being labeled a “thieving drug addict”, this has the effect that makes people afraid to speak, which is just the effect that is intended. To steal another term from the liberal lexicon, this is just a way to disenfranchise those who do not agree with them 100%. What was the “basket of deplorables” comment intended to do if not make people who disagreed with her afraid to speak up and encourage her supporters to ostracize her opponents supporters?
> 
> I was not saying that if you don’t think like I do that I don’t want hear it. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I don’t think you should be shunned for having it.
> 
> So, I fail to see how this is ironic to my point. And then point out that many liberals consider that most (if not all) Trump supporters are White, gun-toting, Christian Jim-Bob’s who live out in the sticks and drove their pick-up with the confederate flag in the back into town to vote. If those people aren’t defined as a racial and/or ethnic group, I am not sure who can be. And, if these liberals have any tolerance at all for Trump supporters, they do a great job of hiding it.  
> I wonder if you intend this to mean that only the definitions that liberals use can appear the Webster dictionary, or that only liberals contribute to the dictionary? (of course, you probably think anyone who can read must be a liberal)
> 
> If so, then they will have to amend a lot of their definitions.  
> For example:
> 
> Bigot-One who, regardless of their tolerance of others and their opinions, hates brown-skinned people  
> Racist-One who hates brown-skinned people regardless of race identity  
> Xenophobic-One who hates brown-skinned people regardless of their origin
> 
> Hey, it might just be easier than I though.

Wall of text, saying “you have to tolerate intolerance”?

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