# Ways to irritate Trump supporters? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 28, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295 "2016-11-28T17:11:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/141 "2016-12-02T04:20:04Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Here’s Trump’s plan: Subsidize companies who threaten to send jobs to other countries with taxpayer dollars, like his brilliant deal with Carrier. Then, as automation destroys millions of jobs in retail, manufacturing and trucking, he’ll use what’s left of the tax base on incentives for companies that employ humans. Pretty soon, America will be as bankrupt as a Trump casino. Carrier is an excellent example. The “Great Man”, the self proclaimed greatest bizniz man ever, the super genius, got played. Bigly. And jobs STILL went south to Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/142 "2016-12-02T04:28:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Your silence in rebuke of the thread’s true raving lunatic completely unhinged from reality is noted, as is amusement at your hypocrisy and gall. Yes, **Der Trihs** is ridiculous, and if you haven’t noticed, you’re his Doppelgänger on the right. Superior in many ways— pomposity, bombast, prostate size— but eerily similar in your skill at constructing a caricatured replica of the world out of your own Tinkerturds. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/143 "2016-12-02T05:58:56Z")
> [@Sigene](#): > > Seriously. I mean this. For you anti-Trump fans read this over five times and understand what Elf is saying. Read the Cracked article over and over again. I used to have faith that the liberals were different then the conservatives in that they were more able to understand the other side. Looking at all the whiny crap over the last few weeks has changed my way of thinking…Please help me recover my faith that the Liberal masses are more intelligent than this and really are willing to understand and not insult what you think are the unwashed morons worthy of only your disdain. > > That is why you lost. You didn’t lose for any other reason than not understanding the point of view of millions of people outside of the big blue cities.You wrote off the wrong half of the country as a group to be made fun of and not taken seriously. I hope you learn and do a better job in 4 years. This is one of the most amazingly hypocritical things I’ve ever read here. You’re literally chastising liberals for both thinking that they’re better than conservatives, and for _not actually being better than conservatives._ That’s fantastic. You’ve really outdone yourself. Anyway, speaking as a gay man, the election of Donald Trump has completely fucked me. The only thing standing between me and my right to marry is the likelihood of Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s brain throwing a blood clot. There’s a solid chance of seeing a North Carolina-style “freedom of religion” law being adopted at a national level - which will essentially be the end of any sort of legal protections for homosexuality anywhere in the nation. Also, there’s been a really lovely spike in hate crimes since he started his campaign, and now that he’s won, it’s not exactly subsiding. Explain to me again why I should give one single fuck about any one of the miserable shits who put this abomination into office? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/144 "2016-12-02T11:32:42Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Anyway, speaking as a gay man, the election of Donald Trump has completely fucked me. The only thing standing between me and my right to marry is the likelihood of Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s brain throwing a blood clot. There’s a solid chance of seeing a North Carolina-style “freedom of religion” law being adopted at a national level - which will essentially be the end of any sort of legal protections for homosexuality anywhere in the nation. Also, there’s been a really lovely spike in hate crimes since he started his campaign, and now that he’s won, it’s not exactly subsiding. > > Explain to me again why I should give one single fuck about any one of the miserable shits who put this abomination into office? Why _wouldn’t_ you? This election was freaky close; imagine you hear a group of Trump voters talking, and one of 'em says “you know, I would’ve voted for Hillary, if not for X.” And this assertion is met with nods and _well-sure-that-goes-without-saying_ sentiments. You wouldn’t want to hear what that X was? I’d sure want to hear what X was. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/145 "2016-12-02T12:03:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Liberals call conservatives racist for all sorts of things that aren’t racist in any true sense of the word. They get called racist if they’re law and order types, because the war on drugs and the legal system is allegedly designed to target and punish black people. … Ha ha! Yeah, because we (conspiratorial wink) know that the reason Black fellas make up such a disproportionate amount of the prison population is because they are known to commit just exactly that much more crime than the White fellas! My Brother! ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/146 "2016-12-02T12:25:13Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > For this you need an 8x10 photo of Donald Trump (a printout is fine) and a wide-tipped black Sharpie. > > When see a Trump supporter, go up to him and hand him the photo and marker. > > While his hands are full, punch him in the nose. I hadn’t heard this before, though I’m guessing it’s a variation on an older theme borrowed for this purpose. Dunno why, just the vibe I’m getting. Anyway, the completely over-the-top action, coupled with the setup that makes it sound like it’s leading somewhere else entirely, gave me a good laugh. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/147 "2016-12-02T13:17:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Explain to me again why I should give one single fuck about any one of the miserable shits who put this abomination into office? Because not giving a single fuck about any one of them got Trump elected. ---
**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/148 "2016-12-02T13:30:06Z")
I was going to just leave that here as a short pithy answer…but… The whole premise is that the Democrats have to do a better job in reaching out to some of those people who voted for Trump. If they don’t, they will lose again. You have to internalize that the whole country doesn’t have the same experience as you, and if you alienate large groups by not giving a single fuck about them, they will not identify with your values and your candidate and vote for someone else. I’ll bring up the “Black Lives Matter” movement. I’m a huge cynic about police militarization and the unchecked power they have to just shoot and kill. I know that some are justified and I know that “I’m not there in the trenches” but I don’t give police a free pass, and am deeply suspicious about their motives and actions. But when I see a rally for “Black Lives Matter” I don’t readily identify with it, because I’m not included. It takes more for me to feel part of the movement, and I’m less likely to join in. Its human nature, its normal behavior to not have motivation to support ideas you don’t feel a part of. My advice to the Democrats is to understand that, and use it to your advantage. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/149 "2016-12-02T13:42:12Z")
Or gun rights. Maybe just accept that one as a loss, y’know? Just run a candidate of the huntin’-and-fishin’ type – has a big fine gun collection, and a bunch of medals from his Army days – and have him deliver the same message Hillary Clinton did, only while championing the right to keep and bear arms with the exact same amount of zeal that he dedicates to talking about gay rights. Or _something_. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/150 "2016-12-02T14:08:41Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Except the Democratic party candidates have never (or certainly _very rarely_) called Joe Six Pack an enemy in his own country. Clinton’s policies were certainly designed to improve the lives of the common man and were most certainly going to be more effective than vague promises to make America Great Again. Voters retaliated against an offense that never occurred with a vote for someone worse on everything they say they care about. Hence the impulse to call them stupid. That may be true, but Joe Six Pack hears labels like “Basket of Deplorables,” “Racists,” “Fascists,” and so forth and feels personally attacked. Clinton’s favorable policies weren’t apparent to the common man, especially in light of her ignoring her own numerous security breaches and her longtime contempt for police and authority. All the Trump supporters saw was the condescending left calling them stupid. Their own pride mattered more than facts. Democrats need to understand that if they want to win any more elections. Their current ideology isn’t working so good. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/151 "2016-12-02T14:15:48Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > You’re a raving lunatic who’s become completely unhinged from reality. “Unhinged from reality?” What’s the reality? The reality is **Trump won**. The reality is if we don’t want Trump to win again, we have to figure out how to get his supporters to vote otherwise without calling them names such as “raving lunatics.” The reality is they become alienated and incensed and will fight back, no matter how right you think you are. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/152 "2016-12-02T14:23:21Z")
Another option that should not be overlooked is to convince Democrats to actually come out and vote. ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/153 "2016-12-02T14:29:25Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > That may be true, but Joe Six Pack hears labels like “Basket of Deplorables,” “Racists,” “Fascists,” and so forth and feels personally attacked. Clinton’s favorable policies weren’t apparent to the common man, especially in light of her ignoring her own numerous security breaches and her longtime contempt for police and authority. All the Trump supporters saw was the condescending left calling them stupid. Their own pride mattered more than facts. Democrats need to understand that if they want to win any more elections. Their current ideology isn’t working so good. I agree with this analysis for this election. You are wrong about future elections. Joe Six Pack is going to stay home after this one. The jobs are still disappearing. Trump doesn’t have the talent to stop it. Their fragile pride doesn’t mean shit in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/154 "2016-12-02T14:35:46Z")
> [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](#): > > I agree with this analysis for this election. You are wrong about future elections. Joe Six Pack is going to stay home after this one. The jobs are still disappearing. Trump doesn’t have the talent to stop it. Their fragile pride doesn’t mean shit in the long run. [Unemployment rate tumbles to 4.6%, lowest since August 2007](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-payrolls-report-november-2016-130614643.html?ref=gs) His policies are working already!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/155 "2016-12-02T15:14:55Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Wall of text, saying “you have to tolerate intolerance”? Wall of text? Anyway, I’m not saying “you have to tolerate intolerance”. I’m saying that it is hypocritical to say “I’m not going to tolerate you because I believe you to be intolerant”. When you believe someone else’s ideas are so repugnant and vile that you refuse to even allow them in the conversation, you are being bigoted, plain and simple. By silencing their voice, disenfranchising them, you do not even allow for the possibility that _your assumptions_ of their beliefs may not be 100% correct. This makes you appear to be sanctimonious and drives you away from free-thinkers. You have to be pretty smug about your own moral high ground not to not see the irony there. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/156 "2016-12-02T15:18:58Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > [Unemployment rate tumbles to 4.6%, lowest since August 2007](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-payrolls-report-november-2016-130614643.html?ref=gs) > > His policies are working already!! 😃 Did you see the articles recently showing how the number of republicans who think the economy is going well suddenly _spiked_ over the days after election day? > **[Republicans are suddenly realizing the economy is actually in good shape](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/16/13642304/republicans-economy-good-shape)** > > Partisanship makes a big difference Granted, there’s a similar (albeit far lesser) effect among the democrats, but _holy shit_. ---
**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/157 "2016-12-02T15:34:19Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Or gun rights. Maybe just accept that one as a loss, y’know? Just run a candidate of the huntin’-and-fishin’ type – has a big fine gun collection, and a bunch of medals from his Army days – and have him deliver the same message Hillary Clinton did, only while championing the right to keep and bear arms with the exact same amount of zeal that he dedicates to talking about gay rights. Or _something_. I don’t know if this is a joke, but I think it could work. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/158 "2016-12-02T15:49:08Z")
I would think the best way to piss off Trump voters is to [take away their mortgage interest deduction](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/01/heads-up-homeowners-mortgage-interest-deduction-on-trumps-chopping-block.html). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/159 "2016-12-02T16:21:51Z")
> [@Sigene](#): > > Because not giving a single fuck about any one of them got Trump elected. Bullshit. Democrats have bent over backwards to help working class white people, for decades, but these ignorant pig-fuckers would rather listen to Republican lies than actually look at who’s trying to help them. They want Trump? Fine. Let’s have Trump. Let him repeal the ACA. I get health insurance through my work. Let him gut the EPA. I live in California. We’ve got tighter environmental controls than the Feds. Elections have consequences, and this time, that includes soaring cancer rates and no health care. We don’t have to convince these people of any thing. We can just let their own candidate’s policies kill them off. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/160 "2016-12-02T16:24:44Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > Wall of text? > > Anyway, I’m not saying “you have to tolerate intolerance”. I’m saying that it is hypocritical to say “I’m not going to tolerate you because I believe you to be intolerant”. And that is fucking stupid. Being tolerant inherently means being intolerant of intolerance. If I tolerate the intolerant, then I allow them to be intolerant, and then the very thing I want to stop continues happening. There is a case study of this. Gamers. We decided to become all inclusive, and, in doing so, we let in the sexists. Even though we were trying to be inclusive, we created a place where women didn’t want to be, because they would have to deal with these people. When we started taking that shit seriously, and started kicking people out for this shit–and you can’t get more intolerant than that–women started to feel more welcome and we became more inclusive–more tolerant. The idea that we have to tolerate the intolerant is just wrong. What we have to do is try to find the decent people who got lumped in with the horrible people. The people who voted based on stupid promises about getting their jobs back. The people who just couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Clinton. The people who read the fake news and learned the wrong thing. And, yes, the progressives and moderates who voted third party. And we have to continue the outreach of convincing the intolerant to stop being so intolerant. That doesn’t mean tolerating them. It means educating them, and doing so in a way that doesn’t push them away. Not tolerating the fucking intolerant racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic or otherwise human garbage. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295.md?page=9)