# Ways to irritate Trump supporters?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 28, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295 "2016-11-28T17:11:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/161 "2016-12-02T16:31:17Z")

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We tolerate the bigots, we lose minorities. We already saw that people would just rather not vote, even if it means a win for the worse side.

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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/162 "2016-12-02T16:43:43Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Bullshit. Democrats have bent over backwards to help working class white people, for decades, but these ignorant pig-fuckers would rather listen to Republican lies than actually look at who’s trying to help them. They want Trump? Fine. Let’s have Trump. Let him repeal the ACA. I get health insurance through my work. Let him gut the EPA. I live in California. We’ve got tighter environmental controls than the Feds. Elections have consequences, and this time, that includes soaring cancer rates and no health care. We don’t have to convince these people of any thing. We can just let their own candidate’s policies kill them off.

It doesn’t matter what Democrats have done, or not done. Those that voted for trump often believe that the two parties don’t really do anything, they just talk and nothing changes.

WHat they do see is the left calling them stupid, racist, and ignorant pig-fuckers like you do here. First you are wrong, most of them aren’t racist, stupid or ignorant pig-fuckers…I know that is just hyperbole. But to show animosity towards them, pretty much means that they aren’t going to support you, nor does it encourage them to find common ground with you.

Fine, they say (just like you), you want to call us names and ignore us because we don’t live in California or the East Coast. We’ll vote for Trump.

If you continue to alienate them, they will continue to be alienated. Alienation did not work this time…

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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/163 "2016-12-02T16:46:20Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> We tolerate the bigots, we lose minorities. We already saw that people would just rather not vote, even if it means a win for the worse side.

Again you are making the mistake of calling them bigots by default. Most are not. Lumping them in with true bigots doesn’t make them want to vote your way.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/164 "2016-12-02T16:48:38Z")

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> [@Sigene](#):
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> Fine, they say (just like you), you want to call us names and ignore us because we don’t live in California or the East Coast. We’ll vote for Trump.

Without regard for how many promises he walks back, or outright ignores. I don’t see how you cannot see some sort of judgement of Trump voters as justified.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/165 "2016-12-02T16:50:33Z")

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> [@Sigene](#):
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> Again you are making the mistake of calling them bigots by default. Most are not. Lumping them in with true bigots doesn’t make them want to vote your way.

We don’t need them to vote our way. All we need is for 1% more of Obama voters to turn out. Trump got no more votes than Romney did.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/166 "2016-12-02T17:04:47Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> We don’t need them to vote our way. All we need is for 1% more of Obama voters to turn out. Trump got no more votes than Romney did.

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“To turn out”? Seriously? The election is over. It appears that Trump received all of the votes he needed.

It also appears that many Obama voters didn’t care for, or refused to vote for, a life-long, scum-sucking, politician like Hillary.

Pointing this out is a great way to irritate Trump supporters. :rolleyes: 🙂

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/167 "2016-12-02T17:07:25Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> “To turn out”? Seriously? The election is over. It appears that Trump received all of the votes he needed.
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> It also appears that many Obama voters didn’t care for, or refused to vote for, a life-long, scum-sucking, politician like Hillary.
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> Pointing this out is a great way to irritate Trump supporters. :rolleyes: 🙂

\*\*Sigene \*\* was proceeding from an incorrect premise, that voting is a zero sum event. I was disabusing of this notion. Pissing off Trump voters is just gravy.

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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/168 "2016-12-02T17:07:50Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Without regard for how many promises he walks back, or outright ignores. I don’t see how you cannot see some sort of judgement of Trump voters as justified.

Absolutely see some sort of judgement of some trump supporters. not all of them. However, the bigger point is while there is some justification for judgement; the vehement anger, actions, and words against all of them will not win votes.

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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/169 "2016-12-02T17:09:44Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> We don’t need them to vote our way. All we need is for 1% more of Obama voters to turn out. Trump got no more votes than Romney did.

I would agree with this… As long as they are well placed voters. Getting more votes in New York or California, won’t really help.

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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/170 "2016-12-02T17:12:39Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> \*\*Sigene \*\* was proceeding from an incorrect premise, that voting is a zero sum event. I was disabusing of this notion. Pissing off Trump voters is just gravy.

The real premise is ‘pissing off trump supporters…’ while being ‘gravy’; still gets you Trump for president.

Continuing to piss off enough people will continue to keep you from success.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/171 "2016-12-02T17:17:12Z")

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> [@Sigene](#):
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> Absolutely see some sort of judgement of some trump supporters. not all of them. However, the bigger point is while there is some justification for judgement; the vehement anger, actions, and words against all of them will not win votes.

But that is my point; we don’t need to convert Trump voters. Let them vote vote for him. As demonstrated in 2008 and 2012, all we need to do is motivate Democrats. Since it is unlikely that Hillary will run again, I think that is a highly likely outcome which should give some unease to Trumpists. But I doubt it will, and they will be shocked to learn that majority rules more often than not.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/172 "2016-12-02T18:06:22Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> \*\*Sigene \*\* was proceeding from an incorrect premise, that voting is a zero sum event. I was disabusing of this notion. Pissing off Trump voters is just gravy.

“Trying” to piss off Trump voters may be gravy, but watching the Democrat collective’s head explode is like a Thanksgiving day dinner with all the trimmings.

It doesn’t matter what the Democrat collective says, or does, at this point. It’s all trumped by a smile and a quiet “Trump won, Hillary lost”. Might even add a “sucks to be you” if they’re persistent. 😃

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/173 "2016-12-02T18:17:52Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> It doesn’t matter what the Democrat collective says, or does, at this point. It’s all trumped by a smile and a quiet “Trump won, Hillary lost”. Might even add a “sucks to be you” if they’re persistent. 😃

Enjoy it while it lasts. You’ve certainly earned it.

But don’t be too surprised when it all goes pear shaped and all those loser democrats get the final, “Told you so!”.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/174 "2016-12-02T18:18:27Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> But that is my point; we don’t need to convert Trump voters. Let them vote vote for him. As demonstrated in 2008 and 2012, all we need to do is motivate Democrats. Since it is unlikely that Hillary will run again, I think that is a highly likely outcome which should give some unease to Trumpists. But I doubt it will, and they will be shocked to learn that majority rules more often than not.

You think she’s gone? Hillary isn’t gone. She thinks YOU owe her. Pinocchio Pelosi will once again lead the Democrat effort in the U.S. House, and Hillary will once again secure her position as the DNC’s candidate for POTUS. SSDD.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/175 "2016-12-02T18:22:40Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Enjoy it while it lasts. You’ve certainly earned it.
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> But don’t be too surprised when it all goes pear shaped and all those loser democrats get the final, “Told you so!”.

There will never be a _final_ I-told-you-so. There will always be another election.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/176 "2016-12-02T18:26:15Z")

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> [@Sigene](#):
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> It doesn’t matter what Democrats have done, or not done. Those that voted for trump often believe that the two parties don’t really do anything, they just talk and nothing changes.
> 
> WHat they do see is the left calling them stupid, racist, and ignorant pig-fuckers like you do here. First you are wrong, most of them aren’t racist, stupid or ignorant pig-fuckers…I know that is just hyperbole. But to show animosity towards them, pretty much means that they aren’t going to support you, nor does it encourage them to find common ground with you.
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> Fine, they say (just like you), you want to call us names and ignore us because we don’t live in California or the East Coast. We’ll vote for Trump.
> 
> If you continue to alienate them, they will continue to be alienated. Alienation did not work this time…

Ignore them? _Ignore them?_ Asshole, I’m fucking _funding_ them! Where do you think Mississippi gets its food stamp money from? Billions of “coastal elite” money has been funneled into your shithole states, and what do we get for it? “It doesn’t matter what Democrats have done.” Yeah, no fucking shit! If it doesn’t matter what we do for these ungrateful idiots, what exactly is the fucking point of trying to talk to them? If actually giving them money so they have food and shelter doesn’t get them to stop hating us, _why not_ call them names? Oh, and take back all that federal aid we’ve been subsidizing for them, while we’re at it. Shit, I’m starting to think _I_ might vote for Trump next time around! Let’s grant him the full eight years to give these useless, inbred cockmongers the righteous ass-fucking they voted for. Let him turn “Real America” into a blasted, polluted wasteland populated by diseased serfs ruled over by corporate oligarchs. Maybe that will finally get the message through their sloping, simian skulls about exactly what enacting their political delusions actually means.

Or, at least, it’ll kill off enough of them so we can stop pretending like they matter.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/177 "2016-12-02T18:28:00Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> There will never be a _final_ I-told-you-so. There will always be another election.

This scope of this thread is the current election cycle.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/178 "2016-12-02T18:30:25Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Ignore them? _Ignore them?_ Asshole, I’m fucking _funding_ them! Where do you think Mississippi gets its food stamp money from? Billions of “coastal elite” money has been funneled into your shithole states, and what do we get for it? “It doesn’t matter what Democrats have done.” Yeah, no fucking shit! If it doesn’t matter what we do for these ungrateful idiots, what exactly is the fucking point of trying to talk to them? If actually giving them money so they have food and shelter doesn’t get them to stop hating us, _why not_ call them names? Oh, and take back all that federal aid we’ve been subsidizing for them, while we’re at it. Shit, I’m starting to think _I_ might vote for Trump next time around! Let’s grant him the full eight years to give these useless, inbred cockmongers the righteous ass-fucking they voted for. Let him turn “Real America” into a blasted, polluted wasteland populated by diseased serfs ruled over by corporate oligarchs. Maybe that will finally get the message through their sloping, simian skulls about exactly what enacting their political delusions actually means.
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> Or, at least, it’ll kill off enough of them so we can stop pretending like they matter.

\<slow clap\>

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/179 "2016-12-02T18:37:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Sigene
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> WHat they do see is the left calling them stupid, racist, and ignorant pig-fuckers like you do here. First you are wrong, most of them aren’t racist, stupid or ignorant pig-fuckers…I know that is just hyperbole. But to show animosity towards them, pretty much means that they aren’t going to support you, nor does it encourage them to find common ground with you.

They should take us seriously, but not literally.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ways-to-irritate-trump-supporters/773295/180 "2016-12-02T18:45:24Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Ignore them? _Ignore them?_ Asshole, I’m fucking _funding_ them!

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You sound really irritated.

I assume you voted for your elected representatives. The same elected representatives who increased your taxes for redistribution to other states.

Keep voting Democrat until you can’t afford it anymore. :smack:

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