# Wayward hurricane **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 10, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495 "2021-09-10T23:26:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/1 "2021-09-10T23:26:50Z")
So hurricane Larry, instead of being a self-respecting tropical cyclone and striking Puerto Rico, New Orleans, Savannah or somewhere warm like that, decides to go its own way and head north. Way north, not just to New Jersey or Connecticut or even Nova Scotia. No, this guy’s going all the way … to Greenland! And once there, it’s going to … SNOW! Several feet of hurricane snow. I don’t think anyone predicted this as a result of Global Warming. > **[Hurricane Larry Will Bring Snow to Greenland](https://gizmodo.com/hurricane-larry-thinks-its-a-blizzard-1847653710)** > > The storm is set to hit Newfoundland and then do a bizarre transformation into a major snowmaker for Greenland. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/2 "2021-09-10T23:34:13Z")
Larry better put on a coat. ---
**Author:** ![InfraBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infrablue/32/6366_2.png) [@InfraBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InfraBlue)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/3 "2021-09-11T01:59:17Z")
> [@Kahn](#): > > Newfoundland sees a fair number of extratropical cyclones that are the remnants of hurricanes that have taken on different meteorological characteristics, the most prominent of which is having a cold core. (Hurricanes and tropical storms have a warm one.) It’s not a unique or unprecedented event. What’s possible as a result of global warming is that these meteorological events will occur more frequently. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/4 "2021-09-11T02:07:37Z")
> [@InfraBlue](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Newfoundland sees a fair number of extratropical cyclones … > > It’s not a unique or unprecedented event. That’s Newfoundland. When’s the last time one of these happened in Greenland? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/5 "2021-09-11T04:29:51Z")
By the time it gets up there it’s just the remnants of the storm though. It’s not like it’s still a tropical cyclone, it’s already just a Cat 1. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/6 "2021-09-11T06:40:29Z")
Hey, don’t rain on the hurricane snow. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/7 "2021-09-11T08:43:16Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > By the time it gets up there it’s just the remnants of the storm though. It’s not like it’s still a tropical cyclone, it’s already just a Cat 1. A hurricane IS a tropical cyclone. It’s just the meteorological name for a tropical cyclone occurring in the North Atlantic and parts of the north Pacific. A Category 1 hurricane is nothing to scoff at … of course if you mean it will weaken to a tropical storm by the time it gets to Greenland, that’s probably true. > **[Thousands without power across eastern Newfoundland as Hurricane Larry wreaks...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/hurricane-larry-nl-1.6170766)** > > Well over 10,000 customers are without power as southeast Newfoundland, including St. John's, feels the effects of Hurricane Larry. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/8 "2021-09-11T08:58:57Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > of course if you mean it will weaken to a tropical storm by the time it gets to Greenland, that’s probably true. Yes, that is what I meant. As a tropical cyclone / typhoon / hurricane moves toward the poles and / or over land, it loses energy. It is quite common for colder parts of the world to get the remnants of a hurricane that brings a bit of bad weather with it. These regions of the world experience this type of weather every now and then anyway. As a point of reference, in Wellington, New Zealand, we had 120 kph wind gusts over night. The same strength as Larry at the moment. No hurricane here though, just “weather”, “a bit windy today eh bro?” ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/9 "2021-09-11T09:10:26Z")
I didn’t mean to rain on Larry’s snow festival. It’s quite right that these events will happen more and more as sea temperatures rise. It is the warm water that provides energy for the hurricane. I just meant to point out that Greenland will most likely see “ex-Hurricane Larry” rather than “Hurricane Larry”. Gee it is a long way north though, 50º N! [https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIAPWSAT2+shtml/090254.shtml](https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIAPWSAT2+shtml/090254.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/10 "2021-09-11T15:36:00Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > hurricane snow Band name – I’m on it. ---
**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/11 "2021-09-11T20:58:10Z")
They even wrote a song about it: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2cQUVtbztEs/hqdefault.jpg "Gogi Grant The Wayward Wind") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cQUVtbztEs) ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/12 "2021-09-12T12:05:56Z")
[Hurricane Hazel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Hazel) (1954) was a storm which didn’t lose much power going over land - lasting about two weeks along a path from the West Indies, through the eastern US, and then across Lake Ontario up to James Bay. 81 fatalities in the Toronto area. That was after 469 dead in Haiti, and 95 in the US. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-hurricane/950495/13 "2021-09-12T18:15:13Z")
My mom and dad and his younger brother John were moored at the Rochester [NY] Yacht Club as they had been getting the Sea Gypsy ready for tucking her away for the winter, and decided to stay aboard her for the night instead of driving back down to Perry. It had been a long day pf cleaning and making sure everything was ready and they must have been exhausted because they wake up to the sounds of gunfire and horns in Kingston Harbor. The storm had broken them loose and they ended up getting blown across the lake. Apparently Harbor Safety and the Canadian version of the Coast Guard were very busy with all the storm wrack, and the fishermen and other boat folks were worried that everybody on board were dead or too injured to respond. Nope, just dog tired from a really long day of work. I can remember later in the mid 60s, about 66 or 67 weathering a moderatly hard storm on the Sea Gypsy, which didn’t bother me any - I always slept better aboard her, to this day I will put on a 10 hour youtube of storm sounds if I am having trouble sleeping. Some of my favorite vacations were aboard her. It helps I also don’t get seasick =)