# Wayward Pines Season 1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072 "2015-05-14T22:11:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/81 "2015-05-31T20:29:57Z")
I’m enjoying it well enough. Probably wouldn’t stick with it if not for 3 things: 1. I kinda like Matt Dillon 2. I heard about the upcoming reveal, so it is worth sticking with at least that long; and 3. I heard that questions will be answered and it will be wrapped up at the end of 10 eps. Not interested in any open ended Mulholland Drive/Twin Peaks bizarreness for the sake of bizarreness. My least fave moment so far was the wife cringing helplessly on the ground - RIGHT NEXT TO THE SHERIFF’S GUN! Decent save, tho, by the annoying kid plastering the sheriff. Glad Ethan followed through and shot the sheriff. Thought Terrence Howard did a pretty good job of being menacing in a pretty cartoony role. Heck, it’s a fun-enough summer diversion with little else new on. Anyone going to watch Zoo? ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/82 "2015-05-31T23:59:01Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > The next question becomes, why? That’s an awful lot of work, up to and including Sheriff Pope roaming around the outskirts of town finding people to bring in, but for what reason? To what end? I don’t think we’ve been given enough information to make anything other than wild guesses about why Wayward Pines exists. The teaser for the next episode suggested that (spoilering to be safe, but I don’t know anything that wasn’t in the ad):children are very important to the purpose of Wayward Pines, and there’s some sort of creepy school for thembut nothing I can recall from the first three episodes even hinted at this. As for the sheriff, I don’t think he has to do much roaming. As far as we know, no one has stumbled into Wayward Pines by accident. They were all either sent there deliberately or, in Teresa’s case, at least expected. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/83 "2015-06-01T00:08:10Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > As for the sheriff, I don’t think he has to do much roaming. As far as we know, no one has stumbled into Wayward Pines by accident. They were all either sent there deliberately or, in Teresa’s case, at least expected. We only know about a few of them. We know that Ethan was sent to look for Kate and that his wife was on her way to look for him. I don’t think we know why anyone else headed in that direction, do we? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/84 "2015-06-01T00:36:56Z")
> [@VunderBob](#): > > I have just started book #3. > > The show so far is all in book 1, and is about 2/3rds faithful. I will say the monsters are not dinosaurs, and the big secret is science fiction related, not supernatural. The series has moved various events from book 1 into a different order, so I expect that episode 4 will start to bring in elements from books 2 and 3. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/85 "2015-06-01T03:14:38Z")
> [@VunderBob](#): > > I have just started book #3. > > The show so far is all in book 1, and is about 2/3rds faithful. I will say the monsters are not dinosaurs, and the big secret is science fiction related, not supernatural. Please put things like this in spoilers! ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/86 "2015-06-01T11:31:24Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Please put things like this in spoilers! I haven’t given anything up. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/87 "2015-06-01T11:53:44Z")
> [@VunderBob](#): > > I haven’t given anything up. That was pretty spoiler-ish, at the very least. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/88 "2015-06-01T13:13:22Z")
And another thread is killed. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/89 "2015-06-01T13:13:45Z")
> [@VunderBob](#): > > I haven’t given anything up. Saying that something is definitely not such and such or that it’s definitely one thing and not another, based on the books rather than as speculation, is a spoiler. If it’s something that you know from the books that isn’t yet obvious from the show, then treat it as a spoiler. Please don’t decide for the people who haven’t read the books yet what they do and don’t want to know. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/90 "2015-06-01T13:50:41Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Saying that something is definitely not such and such or that it’s definitely one thing and not another, based on the books rather than as speculation, is a spoiler. If it’s something that you know from the books that isn’t yet obvious from the show, then treat it as a spoiler. > > Please don’t decide for the people who haven’t read the books yet what they do and don’t want to know. Honestly, I think you’re the one making this thread really hard to participate in. It seems like not a post goes by without you telling someone why they shouldn’t have said it. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/91 "2015-06-01T13:55:21Z")
Because they shouldn’t have. And you’re exaggerating. Can we just discuss the show without people requesting or posting spoilers? It’s a reasonable request. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/92 "2015-06-01T14:59:20Z")
> [@VunderBob](#): > > I will say the monsters are not dinosaurs, and the big secret is science fiction related, not supernatural. Give it to me straight: they’re Morlocks, aren’t they? [1960-style Morlocks](https://alittletourinyellow.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/morlocks.png)… ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/93 "2015-06-01T17:03:24Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Give it to me straight: they’re Morlocks, aren’t they? [1960-style Morlocks](https://alittletourinyellow.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/morlocks.png)… I was thinking sleestacks - but I like Morlocks better. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/94 "2015-06-01T19:16:32Z")
Yeah this show doesn’t really make a lot of sense. They bring Dillon into the town, try to get him to have brain surgery, but he escapes, and they let him. The sheriff places him under house arrest, he leaves the house, and they let him. No punishment. He’s breaking all the rules but they haven’t told him what the rules are, no orientation at all. Is that supposed to be the way all the citizens were brought in? Now we are finding out more about the rules and still he is not being asked or made to obey them. Is he some sort of VIP? I’m hoping this will all be satisfactorily explained, I still like the show but the whole treatment of Dillon by the powers-that-be so far seems very sloppy. They can build this big secret (fake?) prison/town that nobody can leave and the walls around it, but they can’t have a 5 minute orientation for new citizens? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/95 "2015-06-01T19:51:55Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > Yeah this show doesn’t really make a lot of sense. They bring Dillon into the town, try to get him to have brain surgery, but he escapes, and they let him. The sheriff places him under house arrest, he leaves the house, and they let him. No punishment. He’s breaking all the rules but they haven’t told him what the rules are, no orientation at all. Is that supposed to be the way all the citizens were brought in? > > Now we are finding out more about the rules and still he is not being asked or made to obey them. Is he some sort of VIP? > > I’m hoping this will all be satisfactorily explained, I still like the show but the whole treatment of Dillon by the powers-that-be so far seems very sloppy. They can build this big secret (fake?) prison/town that nobody can leave and the walls around it, but they can’t have a 5 minute orientation for new citizens? That’s sort of been my problem with it. Plus, no one in the surrounding area seems to have any issue with this town and people disappearing into it. Now that you write it up like that, kinda reminds me of Shutter Island (I think that’s the movie I’m thinking of) and I’m really hoping this doesn’t just turn into a big dream sequence or psychotic break anything along those lines. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/96 "2015-06-01T20:11:09Z")
Yeah, they killed Juliette Lewis, but not him, for basically the same infractions. It seems like they want him alive for some reason but also need to keep him in line. I’m thinking they killed her as an example to him of what could happen. Did they bring in his family so that they have a way of threatening him, and even possibly carrying out that threat, without actually killing him? Or was it simply because they came looking for him? There must be something special about him. Maybe he has some information they want (like in _The Prisoner_). However, if they just wanted to play mind games in order to get info from him it surely doesn’t require this kind of elaborate set up; especially with the time travel / suspended animation or whatever. Maybe it has an ongoing purpose unrelated to Burke, but they decided to use it, since it already existed, to break him. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/97 "2015-06-01T20:35:44Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > … > Plus, no one in the surrounding area seems to have any issue with this town and people disappearing into it. > … I don’t see this as much of a problem. There must be a real Wayward Pines that is a normal town which the surrounding people are familiar with, and it’s likely that none of the “disappeared” are locals. It seems like everyone who disappears loses consciousness for one reason or another so it’s likely that they’re being taken somewhere else. Although thinking about it, they may have had more than one person coming through asking about a missing friend or family member. Such repeated inquiries would certainly seem odd after a while. The incident with the kid mentioning an accident was odd. Was he a plant, or was the supposed accident staged in a way that the locals were aware of and fooled by it? It’s a rural area so how many local hospitals can there be? You’d think they’d wonder about accidents where unconscious people were taken away that didn’t show up at the local hospital; plus local authorities would investigate accidents. Using a kid as a plant seems odd too. You’d think they’d use an adult government agent or whatever. How does a top secret government project have kids working as plants? Maybe I’m thinking too much and need to suspend disbelief on points like that. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/98 "2015-06-01T20:41:43Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Yeah, they killed Juliette Lewis, but not him, for basically the same infractions. When Kate gave Ethan his tracking chip back she said she only reported Beverly as running, saying something about ‘this is on me now too’. IOW, Sheriff Pope/the town only knows that Beverly tried to run, they don’t know that he did as well. Of course, the doctors ‘we need someone like you’ comment may play into that. Maybe they’re all actually hoping to get out. > [@davidm](#): > > I don’t see this as much of a problem. There must be a real Wayward Pines that is a normal town which the surrounding people are familiar with But there’s still a huge concrete wall with an electric fence at the top. Surely people from the area have seen it. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/99 "2015-06-01T20:59:49Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > There must be something special about him. Maybe he has some information they want (like in _The Prisoner_). However, if they just wanted to play mind games in order to get info from him it surely doesn’t require this kind of elaborate set up; especially with the time travel / suspended animation or whatever. Remember when the sheriff said, “I don’t know what they see in you”, or something like that? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/100 "2015-06-01T21:09:08Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > … > But there’s still a huge concrete wall with an electric fence at the top. Surely people from the area have seen it. You’re assuming that it’s somewhere near the real town. The fake town could be anywhere. The truck he stowed away in had a Wyoming license plate, so it may be in Wyoming someplace where people believe it’s just some sort of restricted military base, although the “sasquatch” (or whatever) outside it would be hard to explain. It may even be another dimension, time, or planet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072.md?page=6)