# Wayward Pines Season 1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072 "2015-05-14T22:11:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/121 "2015-06-05T23:27:28Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > I thought what ultimately got Beverly killed was “talking about the past” when she mentioned that she had a daughter. > > Removing the chip and/or trying to escape doesn’t seem to be grounds for immediate execution since Peter had obviously tried to run in the past and Ethan has been made sheriff after running. Did Kate also say she tried to escape at first? I suppose that could go either way. I thought that when she mentioned having a daughter, that’s just sort of what set off her breakdown (that she was already on the verge of. Ethan tried to run with her as well, but Kate didn’t report him, only her. Also, keep in mind, that she not only ran, she removed her tracking chip. Maybe it’s all these things together. > [@](#): > > The fact that no airplanes are seen to fly over, no TV, cell phones or Internet and no radio except for when the guy plays the piano point to WP not existing in the same time or place as our 2014. > I still think that the bombing that Ethan failed to prevent led to some event which ultimately causes the entire situation we are witnessing (whatever it is.) > That’s all I have for now. 🙂 No planes could also just mean it’s a military base/no fly zone. I’d bet there’s no planes allowed over Area 51 either (or at least not back in the day). There’s probably plenty of other no fly zones as well, even no. I’d be more concerned about there not being any bugs or how such a small community with no obvious farms/factories/labs/warehouses etc is self sustaining. Even if it is ‘on another planet’ people are getting in and out to bring in food and supplies. Getting into the sewer system might be good start. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/122 "2015-06-05T23:45:23Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > …My WAG of the moment is that they are part of an experiment terraforming another planet. The “garage” is the space/time port, and the creatures outside the walls are aliens. But if I thought too hard about that, I’m sure it would fall apart… Or Wayward Pines could be a zoo on another planet/in another dimension. > [@davidm](#): > > …Do they become food for whatever is outside the walls? Is there some weekly supply run (the panel truck or trucks?) that brings in food etc. and takes away waste, including bodies? Good point; the only thing we know for certain that they produce in the town is children’s toys. 😉 All of their food and consumer goods has to come from somewhere. I wonder if the local supermarket is stocked with [bland name products](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlandNameProduct). > [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > Also, Beverly said whe was born in 1960 and that she came there one (or two?) years earlier in 1999. > Peter also pointed out that there were no calendars in town. How would that even work in practice? :dubious: Were the personal records Burk found just devoid of dates? What about the local newspaper or something as simple as school assignments. Do the season’s even change? ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/123 "2015-06-05T23:50:31Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > How would that even work in practice? :dubious: Were the personal records Burk found just devoid of dates? What about the local newspaper or something as simple as school assignments. Do the season’s even change? The seasons change because Peter said he had been there 8 or 9 winters and Mrs. Fisher said they have a battle of the bands in the summer. That also brings up the question of how they know what day of the week it is, or do they just not use them? Do they have a weekend? I can’t remember if anyone has referred to a specific day of the week. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/124 "2015-06-05T23:56:52Z")
Missed edit window: The personal records contained date of birth. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/125 "2015-06-06T00:15:56Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > What about the local newspaper… How long had the hotel manager said they’d been without a paper. He said there was one, they just hadn’t had a copy in a while since there wasn’t any news. However, when Ethan became the Sheriff the local newspaper photog showed up. I think he said something about not having it for a few days/weeks/months, but we know their sense of time is a bit wonky. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/126 "2015-06-06T00:42:26Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > She only looked young. Peter said when he woke up the next morning with her in a different hotel room, she was older. He only thought it was the next morning. Kate is older than she was the last time Ethan saw her, which he believes was only a few weeks ago. At first I assumed that Nurse Pam had knowingly played a role in bringing Peter to WP, but I suppose it’s possible they were taken at the same time but since she has somehow been in WP longer she had time to “drink the Kool-Aid”. I was glad to see it confirmed that people are abducted from places other than rural Idaho. Peter said he’d last been in California. > [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > They sure were making a big deal about those “Buffalo Burgers”. Except for Mrs. Fisher, who preferred the trout. My guess is that they’re “buffalo burgers” because WP doesn’t have access to much (if any) real beef and the average American has eaten enough hamburgers to notice the difference. If we knew what the “buffalo” really was, we might have a better idea of where/when WP really exists. It may actually be real buffalo (if they’ve traveled back in time there’d be plenty available), it might be some alien meat, or maybe it’s some sort of vat-grown or replicator-generated beef. I’m curious about the girl Ben met at school. She seemed a little too eager to make friends with the new boy, but I’m not sure if this is because she’s been tasked with helping Ben learn to like WP (my initial suspicion) or because she’s curious about the outside world and he’s the most recent teen arrival. I think there was some reference to her having grown up in WP, so she was presumably either brought there as a young kid or was perhaps even born there. ---
**Author:** ![jharvey963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/127 "2015-06-08T17:50:19Z")
What about Dr. Jenkins (Toby Jones)? He appeared both in the “real” world and in Wayward Pines. How does he do this? This also implies that there is some way to travel between the 2. J. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/128 "2015-06-08T18:49:27Z")
It still seems like they’re trying to play with Burke’s head somehow. What other purpose could be served by making him sheriff? It reminds me of the episode of _The Prisoner_ where they made #6 into #2 (the leader, at least locally, of the village). ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/129 "2015-06-12T02:07:14Z")
Well, tonight was defiantly a wham episode. :eek: Wayward Pines really is in Idaho, _41st_ century Idaho. That explains the weird inconstancies with how long people have been their; they’re being thawed as needed instead of the order in which they were frozen. I did find in hard to believe that the US Mint is still making quarters in 2095 without even changing the design, but that it could just be some weird commemorative coin. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/130 "2015-06-12T02:16:39Z")
It’s morlocks! Morlocks! Seems like it would be easier to tell people where they are up front instead of maintaining a massive fraud of supplying the town, keeping it in pristine 21st century condition, monitoring every word they say to kill them to prevent suicides. If that is how everyone is evolving in the next hundred years what’s to keep this batch of people from evolving into morlocks? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/131 "2015-06-12T02:58:00Z")
Sigh. What a disappointment. Knowing the truth will inevitably cause suicide? That teacher hasn’t committed suicide. Neither has Pilcher or the nurse, and there are obviously many others who know. I would think that the ongoing strain of not knowing what’s going on, living in constant fear of doing or saying the wrong thing, worrying about what’s going on with your children, etc. would be as great, or greater, a psychological strain. Peter committed suicide in part because he _didn’t_ know what was going on. Some of the adults brought there don’t have children, so why are they there? Seriously, instead of kidnapping people, wouldn’t you look for volunteers? Young fertile couples who understand what they’re getting into, who would then give birth in Wayward Pines? And the writers have a poor understanding of evolution, especially when it comes to it’s lack of predictability. Obviously this “town” didn’t exist in 2014, so close to Boise. Did they built it after the initial people woke up from hibernation? With what, and how did they hold back the “abbies” while doing so? This entire explanation has the awkwardness of something written after the fact to explain all of the mysteries we’ve seen up until now. Since it’s from a book I suppose that’s not the case, but it sure seems like it. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/132 "2015-06-12T03:00:36Z")
Yeah, don’t really get why it is better for folk to be paranoid than informing them. Could be interesting to hear some of the back story, and what happens when folk start to hear the truth. And why ANYONE would agree to kill folk. And when do they start - uh - working on the 2d generation, if you catch my drift? During the candle scene, I was thinking there weren’t a heck of a lot of black folk with the sheriff gone, then I saw the guy watering his lawn. Sure looks like a pale future… ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/133 "2015-06-12T03:03:28Z")
Sorry. Dupe post. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/134 "2015-06-12T03:08:26Z")
Why did they make Burke sheriff? Maybe it makes sense now that he knows, but at the time they made him sheriff they were obviously trying to keep him from knowing. And I’ll bet he doesn’t commit suicide, thereby falsifying a large part of the premise. And why do they keep dead bodies in that house? Is it simply as an example to keep people scared and in line? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/135 "2015-06-12T04:11:08Z")
Well, that was definitely a shocker of an episode. I’m a bit confused because didn’t we see the Black sheriff outside of Wayward Pines? How could he have done so if they’re two millennia in the future. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/136 "2015-06-12T08:45:11Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I’m a bit confused because didn’t we see the Black sheriff outside of Wayward Pines? Yes we did. We also saw Pilcher outside. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/137 "2015-06-12T11:41:10Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > And why do they keep dead bodies in that house? Is it simply as an example to keep people scared and in line? I missed that. Which house had the dead bodies? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/138 "2015-06-12T12:35:07Z")
There’s an extremely run down house. In an early ep the waitress gave the address to Burke, and he found the decaying corpse of one of the agents he was looking for who had been “reckoned.” Then, and after they killed the waitress, her body appeared there as well. She was hanging from a hook and Burke let her down. I think the sheriff confronted him there as well. I didn’t find it all that shocking. I mean, we all knew something was going on, and there were only so many possibilities. The way they revealed it seemed so overblown. And - of course - time travel always raises so many nitpicky questions. But it is generally best not to think too hard. So how many of those old quarters did they stockpile? 😉 I’m mildly interested in hearing how they go back and forth, resupply the town, etc. And I’m curious how the 21st century went about paying for and building the infrastructure - must have been pretty pricey. Hearing what “disaster” precipitated this effort - they must have had considerable lead time. Sure seems like volunteers would have been a better option - hope they at least address that. Not sure why so many folk seem to go there after apparently staged accidents. Probably wouldn’t stick with it if I didn’t know it was to wrap up in 5 eps. Mildly entertaining. Oh yeah - and I kept hearing Marty Feldman: “Abby Something.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/139 "2015-06-12T13:29:53Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I missed that. Which house had the dead bodies? The burned corpse of the FBI agent Burke was looking for in ep1. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072/140 "2015-06-12T13:37:04Z")
I’m still not convinced that “the truth” that was told to the kids by Mrs. Fisher is the whole, or actual, story. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wayward-pines-season-1/720072.md?page=8)