# We are all going to die COVID-19 Nightmare Thread of Doom: Post the most discouraging stories here **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [April 16, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899 "2020-04-16T05:07:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/1 "2020-04-16T05:07:47Z")
So here are mine: Humans might be able to pass the virus on to our pets: > **[Coronavirus in cats and dogs: How does COVID-19 impact pets?](https://www.cnet.com/science/coronavirus-in-cats-and-dogs-how-does-covid-19-impact-pets/)** > > The biggest questions about COVID-19 and companion animals answered. The virus has already mutated, which is why people are testing positive after recovering from it: > **[Fears new coronavirus strain emerging after ‘116 survivors test positive again’](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/doctor-fears-new-coronavirus-strain-21863963)** > > Reports from South Korea say 116 people who were said to have recovered from Covid-19 have tested positive again Even the severely sick cant get tests: > **[Coronavirus In Minnesota: Hospitalized 3 Times In 10 Days, Mpls. Man Still...](https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/coronavirus-in-minnesota-minneapolis-man-struggles-to-get-covid-19-testing-through-limited-supply/)** > > A Minneapolis man was back in the hospital Tuesday with what he says are symptoms of COVID-19. Worldwide unrest: > **[IMF cautions renewed social unrest possible amid pandemic](https://news.yahoo.com/imf-cautions-renewed-social-unrest-possible-amid-pandemic-145558254.html)** > > The economic stresses caused by the global coronavirus pandemic could spark an outbreak of protests, the International Monetary Fund warned Wednesday, urging governments to take steps to prevent unrest. The global deficit is expected to surge to 10... . . and in America too: > **[Michigan drivers jam capital to protest coronavirus stay-at-home order | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/15/us/michigan-protest-coronavirus/index.html)** > > Tired of the state's stay-at-home order, protesters in cars on Wednesday jammed the streets of Michigan's capital. 6 feet might not be enough social distancing: > **[Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview](https://www.webmd.com/covid/coronavirus)** > > COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/2 "2020-04-16T17:15:59Z")
Humans go extinct. Our penguin replacements learn advanced technology and conquer the universe. Humans missed out. That’s how the galaxy spins. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/3 "2020-04-16T18:17:22Z")
People are posting [videos](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-russia-moscow-ambulances-queueing-deaths-hospitals-a9460611.html) online of the blocks long lines of ambulances waiting to get their patients into hospitals in Moscow. In Russia where they claim to be handling this “small” problem. It’s these tyrannical but poorly run states that are going to have a ton of issues. (See also Brazil and the PI.) And ego-mad leaders and disintegration are a bad combination. They start lashing out at other countries to draw away from the internal problems. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/4 "2020-04-16T18:22:10Z")
> [@RioRico](#): > > Humans go extinct. Our penguin replacements learn advanced technology and conquer the universe. Humans missed out. That’s how the galaxy spins. I actually believe it will be the squids and octopuses that will rule the earth next. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/5 "2020-04-16T19:32:42Z")
Mother Nature is sick of CO2 and a late ice age. So, she gets rid of the problem, humans, and the cockroaches dance for eons. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/6 "2020-04-16T20:59:56Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I actually believe it will be the squids and octopuses that will rule the earth next. Aye, they’re clever, and maybe even telepathic, but I doubt they’ll master electronics. And a rogue nautilus may spread a terrible virus amongst them. Tragedy repeats. Yikes. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/7 "2020-04-16T21:46:27Z")
Global economic collapse that we don’t recover from anytime soon. Employers invest heavily in robotics because they realize human labor is unreliable due to the pandemic. Mass unemployment due to both the virus and mass automation leads to social unrest. Business owners and right wingers unite to push for fascism to cope with the unrest. Also I have a friend in a developing nation. Nations like that don’t have the wealth to deal with extended lockdowns, and a lot of aid is mishandled due to corruption. She thinks there may be a coup, and I don’t blame her. I think this could lead to a global arab spring type movement and the end result will probably be governments just as bad as the ones they replaced, just more corrupt with easy answers. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/8 "2020-04-16T22:03:51Z")
This is all speculation. I think OP wanted actual news, like his links. Not that I think this is a thread I want to continue reading either way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/9 "2020-04-16T22:45:09Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I actually believe it will be the squids and octopuses that will rule the earth next. I’m team Corvid. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/10 "2020-04-17T02:11:35Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > I’m team Corvid. We await their return to our roof. Most snow has melted, so it won’t be long. BTW do NOT piss off Team Corvid - they’re relentless buggers. > [@Leaper](#): > > This is all speculation. I think OP wanted actual news, like his links. News of the future is necessarily speculative unless you have a returnee from 2525 CE advising you. We’ve much alleged “news” media forecasting impending cataclysms. I doubt they qualify as factual because the future hasn’t happened yet. Stay tuned. > [@](#): > > Not that I think this is a thread I want to continue reading either way. 🙂 Follow this thread or the poodle gets it! (On the InterWebz, nobody knows you’re a poodle.) ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/11 "2020-04-17T05:05:58Z")
> [@](#): > > We projected that recurrent wintertime outbreaks of SARS-CoV-2 will probably occur after the initial, most severe pandemic wave. Absent other interventions, a key metric for the success of social distancing is whether critical care capacities are exceeded. **To avoid this, prolonged or intermittent social distancing may be necessary into 2022.** From a study published in [_Science_](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/04/14/science.abb5793). ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/12 "2020-04-17T05:09:35Z")
Remember the “flattening of the curve” model? Maybe not so much: > **[This Isn’t the Flattened Curve We Were Promised](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/isn-t-flattened-curve-were-220023017.html)** > > (Bloomberg Opinion) -- “Flatten the curve” has become the mantra of the global effort to contain the coronavirus pandemic. It’s a powerful and immensely valuable image, helping people understand why their sacrifices are necessary to save lives.It’s... ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/13 "2020-04-17T07:28:27Z")
> [@RioRico](#): > > News of the future is necessarily speculative unless you have a returnee from 2525 CE advising you. OP didn’t say anything about the future. Which is why I thought he was looking for more “now.” ---
**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/14 "2020-04-17T10:08:37Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > Remember the “flattening of the curve” model? Maybe not so much: > > [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/isn-t-flattened-curve-were-220023017.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/isn-t-flattened-curve-were-220023017.html) None of the"flatten the curve" models I saw was even close to being symmetrical. They al looked exactly like what is happening now. Verstuurd vanaf mijn moto g(6) met Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/15 "2020-04-17T10:42:38Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I actually believe it will be the squids and octopuses that will rule the earth next. No. Raccoons. ---
**Author:** ![MaverocK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@MaverocK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaverocK)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/16 "2020-04-17T12:04:52Z")
It has been clear to me that the exaggerated predictions some people made in January and February aren’t coming to fruition. What is also clear to me is that these people are’t happy about this. They are also upset that things will likely be returning to normal much quicker than their predictions, with far fewer fatalities than they predicted. They want the shutdowns to go on as long as possible (presumably because that’s all they do with their lives) so they can fulfil some apocalyptic fantasy they have, ignoring the wide ranging impacts of what would happen shutting the whole world down for months, if not years! Some definitely get some sort of enjoyment or excitement over the doom and gloom. I think its because it makes them feel included or something. I fully support what is currently being done to mitigate things as a short term solution. But this cannot go on forever like a lot of doomers want it to. Furthermore, this: [https://i.imgur.com/ORHfwf7.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ORHfwf7.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/17 "2020-04-17T12:11:37Z")
> [@MaverocK](#): > > It has been clear to me that the exaggerated predictions some people made in January and February aren’t coming to fruition. What is also clear to me is that these people are’t happy about this. They are also upset that things will likely be returning to normal much quicker than their predictions, with far fewer fatalities than they predicted. > > They want the shutdowns to go on as long as possible (presumably because that’s all they do with their lives) so they can fulfil some apocalyptic fantasy they have, ignoring the wide ranging impacts of what would happen shutting the whole world down for months, if not years! Some definitely get some sort of enjoyment or excitement over the doom and gloom. I think its because it makes them feel included or something. > > I fully support what is currently being done to mitigate things as a short term solution. But this cannot go on forever like a lot of doomers want it to. > > Furthermore, this: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://i.imgur.com/ORHfwf7.jpg) The " exaggerated predictions" were based on infection rates _at the time_. The whole point of the shutdowns was to reduce exposures and infections which what has happened. Of course the numbers would change to below original predictions. THAT WAS THE INTENT. Do you actually WANT more infections and deaths? ---
**Author:** ![MaverocK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@MaverocK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaverocK)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/18 "2020-04-17T12:44:17Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The " exaggerated predictions" were based on infection rates _at the time_. Which predictions are you talking about? The predictions that I read and found exaggerated were talking about tens of millions of death alone in the US. This is not going to happen. > [@running\_coach](#): > > The whole point of the shutdowns was to reduce exposures and infections which what has happened. That’s so obvious. > [@running\_coach](#): > > Do you actually WANT more infections and deaths? Obviously no. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/19 "2020-04-17T12:54:57Z")
> [@MaverocK](#): > > It has been clear to me that the exaggerated predictions some people made in January and February aren’t coming to fruition. What is also clear to me is that these people are’t happy about this. They are also upset that things will likely be returning to normal much quicker than their predictions, with far fewer fatalities than they predicted. Why is this clear to you? Can you point to an example of someone who wishes there were more deaths? I suspect you can’t, but I can. There are multiple conservative/Republican/Trumpers who publicly declare that they can live with 2-3% fatalities, or tens of millions of fatalities, because the economy must reopen because reasons! [Link to Dr. Oz who says](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dr-oz-slammed-for-suggesting-it-may-only-cost-us-2-to-3-of-american-lives-to-reopen-schools-2020-04-16)" > [@Dr. Oz](#): > > just saw a nice piece in The Lancet arguing the opening of schools may only cost us 2 to 3%, in terms of total mortality. Any, you know, any life is a life lost, but … that might be a tradeoff some folks would consider." 2-3% OF TOTAL MORTALITY just so we can open stuff up again. Why do we have to kill 3% of us just so we can open stuff up again? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/20 "2020-04-17T12:59:56Z")
> [@MaverocK](#): > > Which predictions are you talking about? The predictions that I read and found exaggerated were talking about tens of millions of death alone in the US. This is not going to happen. Obviously that’s because we saw the danger (eventually) and acted on it. Serious question… what kind of point do you think you’re making by saying “We didn’t have NEARLY the amount of deaths we’d have had without preventive measures?” That’s how prevention works. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899.md?page=2)