# We are all going to die COVID-19 Nightmare Thread of Doom: Post the most discouraging stories here **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [April 16, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899 "2020-04-16T05:07:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MaverocK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@MaverocK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaverocK)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/21 "2020-04-17T13:00:34Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Why is this clear to you? Can you point to an example of someone who wishes there were more deaths? I kept coming across comments on Reddit where people wrote (as I said before) that they expected tens of millions of deaths in the US alone. A lot of posts of this kind. I find it exaggerated. It isn’t going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![MaverocK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@MaverocK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaverocK)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/22 "2020-04-17T13:04:07Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Serious question… what kind of point do you think you’re making by saying “We didn’t have NEARLY the amount of deaths we’d have had without preventive measures?” That’s how prevention works. Where did I say “We didn’t have NEARLY the amount of deaths we’d have had without preventive measures”? You are twisting my words. It is clear that we have less deaths due to the preventative measures. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/23 "2020-04-17T13:47:34Z")
> [@MaverocK](#): > > I kept coming across comments on Reddit where people wrote (as I said before) that they expected tens of millions of deaths in the US alone. A lot of posts of this kind. I find it exaggerated. It isn’t going to happen. Reddit? REDDIT?!! You’re basing your position on what some effing randos on reddit said? You might as well say that we should use aromatic oil diffusers to combat the disease. Try finding someone who actually knows what they’re talking about to support your position. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/24 "2020-04-17T15:13:31Z")
Yes, there are a lot of doom-and-gloomers on Reddit. But being doom-and-gloom is different than _wanting_ to be doom-and-gloom. I think some people are just wired to expect the worst. And a lot of Redditors are mentally ill teenagers. They want everyone to die because they hate everyone and everything. I don’t see people like that here, though. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/25 "2020-04-17T17:04:32Z")
> [@MaverocK](#): > > It is clear that we have less deaths due to the preventative measures. Okay, so why do you keep beating the drum about the tens of millions of deaths being exaggerated? Does that mean you think that, absent prevention, there wouldn’t have been tens of millions of deaths? Does that mean that prevention has been so successful that we can suspend it without worrying about tens of millions of deaths? More to the point, where do you get your sense of the above? Do you have some background as an epidemiologist, physician, healthcare planner, or biologist? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/26 "2020-04-17T17:19:37Z")
[The US Navy tested virtually everyone on board the USS Roosevelt,](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-military-sympt/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-u-s-aircraft-carrier-are-symptom-free-idUSKCN21Y2GB) and found that of the people who tested positive, 60% were asymptomatic. Since sailors on an aircraft carrier tend to be younger and healthier than the general population of the US, it’s likely that the prevalence of asymptomatic carriers in the US will be lower - but not _that_ much lower. This is going to make restarting the economy really, really problematic. A vaccine is the only thing that’s going to really wrestle this virus under control. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/27 "2020-04-17T17:49:02Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > It’s these tyrannical but poorly run states that are going to have a ton of issues. (See also Brazil and the PI.) And ego-mad leaders and disintegration are a bad combination. They start lashing out at other countries to draw away from the internal problems. They also lash out at the WHO. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/28 "2020-04-17T22:06:04Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Why is this clear to you? Can you point to an example of someone who wishes there were more deaths? > > I suspect you can’t, but I can. There are multiple conservative/Republican/Trumpers who publicly declare that they can live with 2-3% fatalities, or tens of millions of fatalities, because the economy must reopen because reasons! > > [Link to Dr. Oz who says](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dr-oz-slammed-for-suggesting-it-may-only-cost-us-2-to-3-of-american-lives-to-reopen-schools-2020-04-16)" > > 2-3% OF TOTAL MORTALITY just so we can open stuff up again. > > Why do we have to kill 3% of us just so we can open stuff up again? Dr. Oz is a quack. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/29 "2020-04-17T22:23:11Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > No. > Raccoons. Shut yo mouth. Lemurs have Got this😜 ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/30 "2020-04-17T22:26:23Z")
Now [the mayor of Jacksonville is opening up beaches](https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/us/jacksonville-florida-beach-reopen/index.html). Supposedly only running, walking, biking, etc. will be allowed and not group activities or sunbathing. How much you wanna bet the mayor won’t close the beaches when people start gathering in groups, as they inevitably will? And I think that Ohio racetrack owner who says [he’s opening up the racetrack](https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-ohio-racetrack-trnd/index.html)(to 6,000 people instead of its 30,000 capacity so people will, you know, _voluntarily_ stay 6 feet apart) is the first of many who are going to say damn the science, let’s get 'er done! Then when the COVID rates spike, they won’t accept any blame. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/31 "2020-04-18T13:48:22Z")
A lot of pro-totalitarian [stuff](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52308002) going on in Europe, esp. [Hungary](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52095500). The “This is all going to bring us together and other nifty things!” people don’t know their history. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/32 "2020-04-18T15:06:05Z")
According to a study in Scientific America, only half of coronavirus deaths are due to the virus while the other half are due to opportunistic infections ala HIV. Last week a study claimed that the coronavirus attacked T cells. > **[COVID-19 Patients Need to Be Tested for Bacteria and Fungi, Not Just the...](https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/observations/covid-19-patients-need-to-be-tested-for-bacteria-and-fungi-not-just-the-coronavirus/)** > > Many hospitalized victims are developing potentially lethal secondary coinfections such as bacterial pneumonia and sepsis > [@](#): > > When these high-risk individuals end up in critical care, they are more likely to stay there for an extended period of time, increasing the risk for exposure to secondary bacterial infections. An estimated one in seven COVID-19 patients will develop a secondary infection while hospitalized. Further, a separate study found that only about 50 percent of patient deaths were due to the original viral infection, while the other 50 percent were caused by subsequent secondary infections. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899/33 "2020-04-18T21:50:02Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > A lot of pro-totalitarian [stuff](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52308002) going on in Europe, esp. [Hungary](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52095500). > > The “This is all going to bring us together and other nifty things!” people don’t know their history. Hungary needs to be kicked out of the EU. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-all-going-to-die-covid-19-nightmare-thread-of-doom-post-the-most-discouraging-stories-here/851899.md?page=1)