# We are literally living out Idiocracy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981 "2019-06-03T21:43:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/21 "2019-06-04T02:11:35Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > “Idiocracy” was written by someone who was able to travel forward in time to 2018 and then return to 2006. The movie is basically a documentary. Yeah, well, the other day I went to Starbucks to get a hand job, and they threw me out on my ass, so I don’t think we’re quite there yet. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/22 "2019-06-04T04:03:13Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > That moment when you stop saying “haha we’re idiocracy” and realize they had better leadership than we do. :smack: > > This sucks. That’s pretty funny when yo think about it. I legit lol’ed. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/23 "2019-06-04T04:32:09Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I kind of feel like it’s closer to something like **Brazil** , but _disguised_ as **Idiocracy**. I love “Brazil”, but I think you are giving Trumpy too much credit. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I’m glad China is targeting his voters (rather than just targeting everyone with tariffs), since they are the ones who brought this travesty upon the world. Is there any direct evidence that they are purposefully doing this? Or is it just an inference you are drawing? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/24 "2019-06-04T06:05:45Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I’m glad China is targeting his voters (rather than just targeting everyone with tariffs), since they are the ones who brought this travesty upon the world. But they won’t learn anything. Many of them will invent a lie that lets them blame black people and democrats for the consequences of their own bad decisions. > [@SlackerInc](#): > > Is there any direct evidence that they are purposefully doing this? Or is it just an inference you are drawing? Yes. China made a point of slapping retaliatory tariffs specifically targeted against Kentucky bourbon and Tennessee whiskey, for example. [Whiskey wars: Trade tariffs hit hard in Trump country](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/06/whiskey-wars-trade-tariffs-hit-hard-in-trump-country.html) [U.S. whiskey exports dry up as tariffs bite](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-bourbon/u-s-whiskey-exports-dry-up-as-tariffs-bite-idUSKCN1R2098) [The US-China Trade War: The Case of Kentucky Bourbon](https://thediplomat.com/2019/04/the-us-china-trade-war-the-case-of-kentucky-bourbon/) > [@](#): > > Canada, China, Mexico and the European Union slapped import duties ranging from 10 percent to 25 percent on U.S whiskey and bourbon last year, resulting in a 11 percent drop in U.S. whiskey exports in the second half, according to a report from the Distilled Spirits Council. > [@](#): > > The new whiskey tariffs are hitting states like Tennessee and Kentucky, solid red states, the hardest. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/25 "2019-06-04T07:50:41Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > As a fan of Idiocracy I have to respectfully disagree with the OP. Comacho > [@SlackerInc](#): > > You are right: it is unfair to Comacho. Camacho. Comacho would mean “someone who is macho in the company of others”, Camacho didn’t need anybody’s support to find his own balls. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/26 "2019-06-04T08:16:31Z")
Ah, yes, the eugenics advocacy movie. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/27 "2019-06-04T11:51:23Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Ah, yes, the eugenics advocacy movie. 😃 The source story “Marching Morons” certainly was. If that aspect made it into the movie, it was more implicit, right? ---
**Author:** ![Gus\_Gusterson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@Gus\_Gusterson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gus_Gusterson)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/28 "2019-06-04T15:33:12Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > They tell themselves that “_To varying degrees, all politicians cheat and game the system_.” I agree with that and think it goes a little further - they also think “If I were in their position I would do the same thing.” That type of thinking is why they vote against their own self interest. Tax cuts for the rich are good because they wouldn’t want to pay a lot of taxes if they were rich. They can’t see that the people who get the tax cuts are actively working to prevent them from getting rich in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/29 "2019-06-04T16:03:27Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Rick Perry heading the Cabinet department he famously couldn’t remember in a GOP debate, which still sounds like some sort of fraternity style prank when I type it out. Actually Perry has turned out to be both quiet, non-idiotic and surprisingly competent as Secretary of Energy. I find it kind of remarkable, considering that he wasn’t known for any of those things as Governor of Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/30 "2019-06-04T16:27:07Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Then there’s the Orange Dum-Dum himself: > > > [@](#): > > > > Asked by a reporter if he thinks he’ll be impeached by Congress,Trump replied, “I don’t see how. They can because they’re possibly allowed, although I can’t imagine the courts allowing it.” > > :smack: Idiotic, incoherent ignorance. Puts me to mind of the old saying about the blind leading the blind, although in this case it’s more like the moronic leading the imbecilic. Actually that’s not as dumb as it sounds. _“…if there is an impeachment standard (and there can be no doubt that there is as the Constitution specifically establishes one – “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors”), then it is only logical that it is possible for that standard not to be correctly followed. If such is the case, who is responsible for saying that the standard was not correctly followed? There can only be one answer – the courts.”_ [https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-system/presidential-impeachment-the-legal-standard-and-procedure.html](https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-system/presidential-impeachment-the-legal-standard-and-procedure.html) No guarantee though that a court (i.e. the Supreme Court) would agree to review an impeachment verdict. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/31 "2019-06-04T16:30:03Z")
On the other hand, “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.” Pretty sure that takes precedence over some guy’s opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/32 "2019-06-04T17:32:51Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Actually Perry has turned out to be both quiet, non-idiotic and surprisingly competent as Secretary of Energy. Which means Trump will be firing him soon. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/33 "2019-06-04T18:14:31Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > That moment when you stop saying “haha we’re idiocracy” and realize they had better leadership than we do. :smack: > > This sucks. I’ve been saying that for years now. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21596507#post21596507](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21596507#post21596507) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/34 "2019-06-04T19:15:43Z")
I don’t believe the courts have any jurisdiction over impeachment. But even if they did, since when are obstruction of justice and emoluments not high crimes or misdemeanors?? Let’s also note that both of the quotes, from Trump and his loyal follower, displayed stupidity not just in their content but also in their tortured grammar. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/35 "2019-06-04T23:40:59Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Actually that’s not as dumb as it sounds. > > _“… **if** there is an impeachment standard (and there can be no doubt that there is as the Constitution specifically establishes one – “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors”), then it is only logical that it is possible for that standard not to be correctly followed. If such is the case, who is responsible for saying that the standard was not correctly followed? There can only be one answer – the courts.”_ > > [https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-system/presidential-impeachment-the-legal-standard-and-procedure.html](https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-system/presidential-impeachment-the-legal-standard-and-procedure.html) > > No guarantee though that a court (i.e. the Supreme Court) would agree to review an impeachment verdict. That’s a much bigger **if** than the gentleman seems to be implying. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/36 "2019-06-05T19:49:38Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > As a fan of Idiocracy I have to respectfully disagree with the OP. Comacho was the kind of president you’d want to have a beer with, even if he was going to take one sip and then crush the can before throwing it away. He was a porn superstar and you know damn well he didn’t pay anyone $130,000 (or if adjusted to 2505 dollars, quite a few trillion more) to cover that up. And instead of being nothing more than a punchline in the wrestling world, he was a five time ultimate smackdown champion! When challenged with “I got a solution… you’re a dick! South Carolina, what’s up?!” he didn’t spend the rest of the movie trashing South Carolina. And most importantly, he recognized that his United States of America had some serious environmental issues and he personally recruited the smartest man in the world to deal with the situation. Now you’ve gone and made me wish that we were living out Idiocracy. Really, I feel more that we are living out that episode of Star Trek where the Federation was the Empire, it was evil, and Spock wore a beard. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/37 "2019-06-05T19:50:57Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > needed for 'batin I need to smoke me a Tarlyton. If you don’t smoke them, fuck you! ---
**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/38 "2019-06-05T20:01:16Z")
I check in on the MAGAts by occasionally reading comments on the local news station’s Facebook posts. Trust me; they are that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/39 "2019-06-05T20:36:23Z")
Trump did say he loves the “poorly educated”–and they love him! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981/40 "2019-06-05T22:19:29Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I kind of feel like it’s closer to something like **Brazil** , but _disguised_ as **Idiocracy**. That’s a good one, specially considering that Brazil (the other Brazil, the one with the real Amazon) has now Bolsonaro for their own flavour of IdioCracy. Kudos. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-literally-living-out-idiocracy/834981.md?page=3)