# We are SO FUCKED (Ruth Bader Ginsburg died tonight) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 18, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959 "2020-09-18T23:42:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/221 "2020-09-24T12:22:43Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > The Republicans are behaving exactly as they would if they knew they were about to lose the White House and the Senate. Actually I think that’s a good point…and surely there are a few voters (let’s hope they’re in Pennsylvania, Florida, Arizona, or North Carolina) who like to vote for a winner, and for whom this tacit admission will be the final push to get them to pull the lever for Biden. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/222 "2020-09-24T12:58:57Z")
I don’t see this as a concession of any kind; it’s simply a golden opportunity that they’re going to cash in on. They’d be doing this even if they were fairly confident that they’d win reelection. In fact Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski wouldn’t have suggested waiting for the election because they’d be facing the wrath of their party. Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump, and conservative activists see an opportunity, and they’re going to cash in on it. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/223 "2020-09-24T13:28:50Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > > [@Morgyn](#): > > > > I’ve also seen a report that Romney has said he won’t support seating a new Justice, but haven’t been able to find a cite. > > Don’t bother [searching](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/09/22/romney-supports-holding-a-vote-on-next-supreme-court-nominee-419898). Yeah, I saw he’d flipped, the weasel. And damn-him-to-hell-Toomey has already said he’d vote yes. Neither of them has the backbone of an amoeba. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/224 "2020-09-24T13:46:26Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > The Republicans are behaving exactly as they would if they knew they were about to lose the White House and the Senate. I am sure this is obvious to everyone here, but is just dawned on me. Eh. Even if they were 99% sure they’d win, why wait? Oral arguments start up again soon, so having a justice in place that supports their vision is a good thing for them. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/225 "2020-09-25T01:10:59Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > > [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > > > > [@Morgyn](#): > > > > > > I’ve also seen a report that Romney has said he won’t support seating a new Justice, but haven’t been able to find a cite. > > > > Don’t bother [searching](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/09/22/romney-supports-holding-a-vote-on-next-supreme-court-nominee-419898). > > Yeah, I saw he’d flipped, the weasel. And damn-him-to-hell-Toomey has already said he’d vote yes. Neither of them has the backbone of an amoeba. I’d say they both do. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/226 "2020-09-25T03:33:37Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Eh. Even if they were 99% sure they’d win, why wait? Oral arguments start up again soon, so having a justice in place that supports their vision is a good thing for them. Several Republican senators really ought to be back home fighting for their political lives. All of them would prefer to be on the campaign trail. Doing this nomination in a hurry comes at a practical cost. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/227 "2020-09-25T08:41:14Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > I’m actually surprised DumpsterFire hasn’t floated the idea of nominating himself to the Supreme Court. As our foremost expert on the U.S. Constitution, he’s actually denying our country his expertise - in a lifetime position. Actually, see this post from Sept. 20: > [@Hypothetical scenario: Trump loses and goes 'scorched earth' on his way out. What does it look like?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-scenario-trump-loses-and-goes-scorched-earth-on-his-way-out-what-does-it-look-like/920490/100): > > Trump nominates himself to vacant SCOTUS seat. Republican-controlled Senate confirms in less than 1 hour. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/228 "2020-09-25T12:10:35Z")
> [@Hypothetical scenario: Trump loses and goes 'scorched earth' on his way out. What does it look like?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hypothetical-scenario-trump-loses-and-goes-scorched-earth-on-his-way-out-what-does-it-look-like/920490/100): > > Trump nominates himself to vacant SCOTUS seat. Republican-controlled Senate confirms in less than 1 hour. Based on past history one hesitates to say anything would be a bridge to far for this iteration of the GOP, but surely that would be. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/229 "2020-09-25T12:56:54Z")
Supreme Court justices aren’t immune from prosecution, yet. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/230 "2020-09-25T13:05:56Z")
Kayaker said it better than I could. I think most of America is tired of being patted on the head by white boomers and being told that the situation isn’t as bad as it obviously is. The fact that you spent your life living in a bubble of bougie comfort and don’t understand what all the fuss is about says more about you than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/231 "2020-09-25T14:48:07Z")
I’ve held off twice calling you an idiot in this thread. You sir are not an idiot. You are a _FUCKING IDIOT._ You know nothing about me, and everything you just said about me is false, as well as every other unfounded opinion about me you have made. Stop being a fucking idiot, and base your responses to people based on what they say here, not what your pathetic little mind dreams up. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/232 "2020-09-25T14:51:35Z")
Ok dude. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/233 "2020-09-25T18:58:21Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Kayaker said it better than I could. I think most of America is tired of being patted on the head by white boomers… How are you even reading this into what @kayaker said? Or was it in a different thread? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/234 "2020-09-26T01:14:33Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Supreme Court justices aren’t immune from prosecution, yet. Even if they were, Trump would never be interested in being merely ‘one of nine.’ Assuming he could appoint himself Chief Justice (and I’m not so sure the GOP Senators could _quite_ stomach that), he’d still be just one of nine people in black robes. No really clear way to make money\*; no rallies, no heads of less-powerful nations kissing his ass—there is no way Donald would ever go for this idea. \*Sure, a SC justice could, hypothetically, extort cash from corporate and other interests with business before the Court. But most cases they take don’t really offer such opportunities, and they don’t take all that many cases in a term. Being a Justice is really a non-starter from any Offshore Accounts point of view. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/235 "2020-09-26T01:30:24Z")
Trump would never want to be a Supreme Court justice. Do you ever see them going on TV and blathering for an hour? And just imagine the dissents he would write, in Sharpie: THERE ARE SOME FINE PEOPLE AT THE HATE GROUPS THE FAILING LIBERALS ARE TRYING AND FAILING TO OUTLAW. I WAS PRESIDENT AND I LIKE THEM SO THEY ARE OKAY. MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME. ANTIFA AND THE PRESS IS THE REAL ENEMY. Even writing that out would be too much like actual work for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/236 "2020-09-26T15:47:08Z")
Trumps don’t do work; they work people over. That is their business. That is how they “made” their “fortune.” Fred Trump probably was a bonafide self-made multi-millionaire, but if the reports are true, it would seem that Donald lost all of that, but found a way to make a living by projecting and marketing an image of power and wealth. I will give Donald credit for one thing: he really knows how to con people. He senses human weakness. In that regard, he truly is brilliant. He knows how to project power and how to brand an image. He’s brilliant in that regard. He’s like an alcoholic who is obsessed with finding ways to finance his next bottle of booze. Lying to get that next bottle is nothing to that guy because it’s a battle for survival in his mind. It’s a zero-sum game: live or die, win or lose. It’s the same with Trump and his lying to get his next loan or to sucker his next investor, or in this case, his next election. People who scoff at him because of his total lack of intellectual coherence fail to understand what really makes him dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/237 "2020-09-27T20:08:44Z")
A ray of light in the darkness! The Ninth Circuit, that Western bastion of liberal judicial activism, overturns the death of RBG! > **[Ninth Circuit Court Overturns Death Of Ruth Bader Ginsburg](https://babylonbee.com/news/ninth-circuit-court-overturns-death-of-ruth-bader-ginsburg)** > > SAN FRANCISCO, CA—In a landmark ruling, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has overturned the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. In a close decision, the judges on the court have ruled RBG's death unconstitutional and... > [@](#): > > “We hereby rule any attempt by President Trump to appoint a replacement to be unconstitutional. We will block any attempt until we figure out a way to resurrect her or maybe clone her and restore her to her already ‘legally alive’ state. We’re still figuring that part out.” ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/238 "2020-09-28T12:18:32Z")
I meant Kayakers point that telling someone that they don’t understand the meaning of the word condescending is in itself condescending. The rest is my point: that smug idiots who think that there are these magic institutions that are suddenly going to kick in are a big part of the problem. There is no one living in the US who has seen this much of a threat to the country and people who are being slow to recognize the depth of the problem are an anchor around our necks. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/239 "2020-09-29T14:46:24Z")
And another thing. Say I am pro-life. Why vote for Trump? He is appointing a pro-life justice now. Why put up with him for another four years? I got what I want from the guy. A better play would have been to tell pro-life voters, “You know, the next president get to replace RBG. I hope you reelect me.” ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/240 "2020-09-29T16:00:30Z")
A strong progressive president and congress can minimize the effects of a court that overly represents a conservative minority. There are many things the Dems can do to improve the country and not be overturned by the SC. Raising taxes on the wealthy and giant corporations, for example. They could also do things to help states willing to accept the help with the health care needs of their residents, should the ACA be overturned. They could fund entities like the IRS and go after the increasing amounts of white collar financial crime (which almost deserves its own thread). They can support the Bureau of Consumer Protection and help average Joe fight the big corporations. They can back the EPA to the fullest extent. They can bury the GOP and the courts in legislation that is popular with the electorate (bump is totally wrong about the electorate afraid of a Dem administration doing _too much_) and delegitimize an ultra conservative court that appears determined to protect the nation’s most powerful at the expense of the most marginalized. That’s all stuff they _can_ do. I don’t know if our current Democratic Party power structure has the intestinal fortitude to actually do any of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959.md?page=11)