# We are SO FUCKED (Ruth Bader Ginsburg died tonight)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 18, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959 "2020-09-18T23:42:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/41 "2020-09-19T02:10:01Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> In case there’s any doubt:
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> [# Mitch Ready to Steamroll Dems on Ginsburg Replacement](https://www.thedailybeast.com/mitch-mcconnell-ready-to-steamroll-dems-on-ruth-bader-ginsburg-replacement)

No, no, there isn’t any doubt.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/42 "2020-09-19T02:10:08Z")

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Is it possible to filibuster from now until the first week of January when the new Senate takes over?

(Let’s not forget there is no FY21 budget and no FY21 defense authorization bill. I can see a government shutdown coming …)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/43 "2020-09-19T02:11:56Z")

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No, I don’t think they can filibuster Supreme Court nominations any more. If they could, how’d we get Gorsuch and Kavanaugh?

Are you thinking they can somehow use the FY21 budget negotiations as some kind of leverage?

ETA: May we live in interesting times. 🤮

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/44 "2020-09-19T02:25:54Z")

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[The President’s Supreme Court list](https://old.reddit.com/r/lists/comments/iq3k6p/trumps_supreme_court_list/) for your reference.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/45 "2020-09-19T02:27:57Z")

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Nancy should totally shut down government spending in retaliation. This is a dirty knife fight, and all hands on deck.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/46 "2020-09-19T02:35:25Z")

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> [@Duckster](#):
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> Is it possible to filibuster from now until the first week of January when the new Senate takes over?

For other bills, maybe, but not for Ginsburg’s replacement. You only need a simple majority and Kavanaugh got in with just 50 votes. Unless Democrats can lure Romney, Collins and Murkowski over to their side - which they might.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/47 "2020-09-19T02:49:01Z")

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If there is a president Biden, he will have to load the courts and end the filibuster. If he’s dumbass enough to declare he won’t do either, then fuck it, there’s no real reason to vote for him.

Then again, I guess that’s what the GOP extremists want me to think.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/48 "2020-09-19T03:49:51Z")

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I picked the wrong year to stop sniffing glue.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/49 "2020-09-19T04:49:00Z")

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Murkowski has [reportedly said today](https://twitter.com/AKpublicnews/status/1307121451145875460) that she will “not confirm until after Americans decide who their President will be.” This was before the announcement of Ginsburg’s passing. I haven’t been able to determine if she means that she’d wait until after the inauguration, too, or if she’d be okay with voting between the election and the inauguration.

I’ve also seen a report that Romney has said he won’t support seating a new Justice, but haven’t been able to find a cite.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/50 "2020-09-19T04:55:34Z")

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Beside his/her family members no.  
Plus most places have a set retirement age anyway.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/51 "2020-09-19T07:49:29Z")

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The US Virgin Islands, not that the current occupant of the Oval Office (or as I call that cretin, “Occupy White House Illegally”) is aware of it, is, in fact, part of the United States and Occupy White House Illegally is their president, too (again, not that he knows that).

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/52 "2020-09-19T11:27:57Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Fuck running, stay and fight. Get Biden and Harris elected, and who knows? Good things might happen. Massive heart attack for Thomas, brain cancer for Alito, fatal DUI solo crash for Kavanaugh…the future doesn’t have to be bleak.

You can do both. 😉  
I voted already and all USA citizens can even if they are residents (or even citizens) of another country.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/53 "2020-09-19T11:36:36Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> If tRump and the Rs lose badly, they may not be able to get the votes for someone really stupid, like Cruz or Cotton.

Cruz is on Trump’s shit-list these days, no way is he getting a nomination.

> [@Duckster](#):
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> Is it possible to filibuster from now until the first week of January when the new Senate takes over?

> [@Senegoid](#):
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> No, I don’t think they can filibuster Supreme Court nominations any more. If they could, how’d we get Gorsuch and Kavanaugh?

Nope, the filibuster option for Supremes nominations was removed by the Senate in 2017.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/54 "2020-09-19T12:08:30Z")

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a true patriot. She will be missed.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/55 "2020-09-19T13:16:49Z")

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Aware of that, tongue firmly in cheek, lol.

Lord knows we need the levity right now.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/56 "2020-09-19T15:59:40Z")

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If Trump was smart he’d hold off on the nomination to increase rightwing turnout in November. Thankfully, he’s a fucking moron with poor impulse control.

Fond of worrying? Supreme court justice Stephen Breyer is 82 years old.

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**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/57 "2020-09-19T16:03:24Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Fuck running, stay and fight. Get Biden and Harris elected, and who knows? Good things might happen. Massive heart attack for Thomas, brain cancer for Alito, fatal DUI solo crash for Kavanaugh…the future doesn’t have to be bleak.

I’d hardly consider someone having a heart attack, brain cancer, or killing oneself in a solo DUI crash as good things.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/58 "2020-09-19T16:12:23Z")

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> [@TheCuse](#):
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> I’d hardly consider someone having a heart attack, brain cancer, or killing oneself in a solo DUI crash as good things.

Evil people dying doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Why should it?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/59 "2020-09-19T16:20:02Z")

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What about impeaching Trump in the house and forcing the Senate to have a trial? Over and over if necessary?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-are-so-fucked-ruth-bader-ginsburg-died-tonight/920959/60 "2020-09-19T17:35:11Z")

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Each Senate ‘trial’ and vote would take about 30 minutes.

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