# We as Liberals.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2007, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622 "2007-07-13T09:44:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/61 "2007-07-13T21:52:50Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] Well knowing you, Hillary could say she was going to donate all her money to you personally then offer to blow you, and you would still think she is a liberal bitch. [/QUOTE] I can’t speak for LA, but I personally just threw up a little in my mouth. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Aquila\_Be](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a698b9/32.png) [@Aquila\_Be](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquila_Be)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/62 "2007-07-14T04:24:15Z")
[QUOTE=if6was9] All of us that call ourselves Liberals [/QUOTE] I think you’d feel right at home in Australia where the Prime Minister leads the Liberal Party and, like you, unashamedly calls himself a Liberal. ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/63 "2007-07-14T05:01:36Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] Well knowing you, Hillary could say she was going to donate all her money to you personally then offer to blow you, and you would still think she is a liberal bitch. [/QUOTE] How are these things mutually exclusive? In fact, how are they related at all? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/64 "2007-07-14T05:04:30Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] _La propriété, c’est le vol!_\* - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, _Qu’est-ce que la propriété? ou Recherche sur le principe du Droit et du Gouvernment)_ [/QUOTE] Why don’t Proudhonnists drink Lapsang Souchong? Because proper tea is theft. Edit: I fucking love that joke. It’s almost as good as “which three football teams have swearing in their names?” ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/65 "2007-07-14T05:18:52Z")
[QUOTE=fisha] How are these things mutually exclusive? In fact, how are they related at all? [/QUOTE] It doesn’t matter what she does, some people will still hate her. ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/66 "2007-07-14T06:09:22Z")
Sorry, couldn’t get back on til now. No, I’m not leaving the board over this, but like **askeptic** said, it’s disingenuous as hell. It’s more of a pet peeve of mine, has been. I doubt **Lib** would admit it, but you know he did it just to get a rise out of people. People just like me, I guess… ::fished in:: ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/67 "2007-07-14T06:30:35Z")
**if6was9** , I can’t understand why you and posters like you let **Liberal** get under your skin. I mean he is an attention whore, though I’ll admit sometimes he can be funny. But you are the one giving him the platform to draw more attention to himself. By making threads like this you are giving him more masturbation material, it is sad really. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/68 "2007-07-14T08:50:27Z")
[QUOTE=Dead Badger] Why don’t Proudhonnists drink Lapsang Souchong? Because proper tea is theft. [/QUOTE] 😃 [QUOTE=Dead Badger] Edit: I fucking love that joke. It’s almost as good as “which three football teams have swearing in their names?” [/QUOTE] Arsenal, Scunthorpe and Manchester Fucking United, right? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/69 "2007-07-14T11:13:48Z")
[QUOTE=pool to if6was9] By making threads like this you are giving him more masturbation material, it is sad really. [/QUOTE] I reckon he’s the one masturbating. After all, he drew the picture. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/70 "2007-07-14T12:34:28Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] Well knowing you, Hillary could say she was going to donate all her money to you personally then offer to blow you, and you would still think she is a liberal bitch. [/QUOTE] Perhaps you’d be willing to explain to me how the extra sentences you quoted change the context? Apropos of nothing, if Hillary were any good a blowjobs, Monica never would’ve stood a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/71 "2007-07-14T14:06:09Z")
[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar] Apropos of nothing, if Hillary were any good a blowjobs, Monica never would’ve stood a chance. [/QUOTE] Most men know that is completely untrue. The thing about blowjobs is that plenty of people give good blowjobs. Very few give _enough_ blowjobs. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/72 "2007-07-14T14:15:35Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] When a 2 year old seizes a toy firetruck and shrieks “MINE!”, he has made the first halting step to the fullness of his humanity! [/QUOTE] Obviously, then, the many things we are _not_ to consider part of the proper governmental role of “preservation” must now include emergency services. ---
**Author:** ![BooBoo316](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@BooBoo316](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BooBoo316)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/73 "2007-07-14T18:14:46Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] It doesn’t matter what she does, some people will still hate her. [/QUOTE] Well, if she gave me all her money and blew me, it would certainly improve _my_ opinion of her, but I guess I’m just easy like that. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/74 "2007-07-14T18:21:38Z")
[QUOTE=if6was9] Sorry, couldn’t get back on til now. No, I’m not leaving the board over this, but like **askeptic** said, it’s disingenuous as hell. It’s more of a pet peeve of mine, has been. I doubt **Lib** would admit it, but you know he did it just to get a rise out of people. People just like me, I guess… ::fished in:: [/QUOTE] Nothing disingenuous about it. Pedantic is the word you’re searching for. But who here can cast the first stone wrt that sin? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/75 "2007-07-14T19:45:49Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Pedantic is the word you’re searching for. [/QUOTE] Shouldn’t this say, “Pedantic is the word for which you are searching”? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/76 "2007-07-14T20:19:54Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Nothing disingenuous about it. Pedantic is the word you’re searching for. But who here can cast the first stone wrt that sin? [/QUOTE] I looked both disingenuous and pedantic up. I have to do that to check myself… 😛 Neither are right. My beef is that **Lib’s** name misrepresents his position. (Maliciously, I think. YMMV) Someone who comes on here might see his name and think he’s some sort of ally. I know you can take any name you want, and I don’t dispute that, but his not only is diametrically opposed to his true nature, but is intended to be so for his own personal fun and enjoyment. Just to the good side of trolling. Not to mention that anyone who would be suckered into thinking he has _anything whatsoever_ to do with Liberalism, gives said someone a false impression of Liberalism. In short, **Lib’s** moniker, his personna, no, his Madonna/David Bowie-like _image_, gives true Liberals a bad name. It’s a “look” intended to misconstrue. Him MISrepresenting himself as a spokesman for MY position _offends_ me. ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/77 "2007-07-14T20:28:51Z")
And the whole point of my rant… BITCH! Just change your fucking name to anything else! You did it before, do it again. I don’t want you being associated with me. You fucking poser. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/78 "2007-07-14T21:13:00Z")
You’ve already been informed by others that most of the world — in fact, the overwhelming supermajority of the world — understands “liberal” as coming from the Latin _liber_, meaning _freedom_. Your political philosophy is known around the world as “authoritarianism”. So since we cannot make a dent in your ignorance in that regard, maybe we can convince you that your own username is grammatically incorrect — even in America. It is in the subjunctive mood, and therefore should be **if6WERE9** because, you see, it isn’t. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/79 "2007-07-14T22:05:49Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] So since we cannot make a dent in your ignorance in that regard, maybe we can convince you that your own username is grammatically incorrect — even in America. It is in the subjunctive mood, and therefore should be **if6WERE9** because, you see, it isn’t. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Perhaps he was before your time, or being as you are a “liberal” perhaps you rejected the dirty fucking hippies, but there was once this guitarist named Jimi Hendrix… ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622/80 "2007-07-14T23:06:02Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Nothing disingenuous about it. Pedantic is the word you’re searching for. But who here can cast the first stone wrt that sin? [/QUOTE] Well, certainly not moi – I admit to being afflicted with the disease. But having said that, what do you thinks of the follolwing post by, **Lib** – and mind you, lasyt I know we’re on good terms for the moment: > [@Lib](#): > > So since we cannot make a dent in your ignorance in that regard, maybe we can convince you that your own username is grammatically incorrect — even in America. It is in the subjunctive mood, and therefore should be if6WERE9 because, you see, it isn’t. Methinks it earns him a place in The Pedantic Hall Of Fame. As well as his pic on the definition. Having aid hat, I have a hard time taking any of this shit seriously. I could possible change my moniker to Bush’s Rim Licker and I doubt it would make a dent in my political leanings – other than attempting to be slick (sick) abou what they are. Long live American faux-liberals! In the current sense pf the terminology in the US of course, it is rather in between pathetic and funny. But hey! Not like a give a turd. Waay too busy with RL. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-as-liberals/411622.md?page=5)