# We come from the land of the ice and snow.....

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 17, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318 "2012-11-17T16:38:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/1 "2012-11-17T16:38:18Z")

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Norway, in other words.  
[Obligatory Led Zeppelin link.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApxnAr6pRt0)

Been here a few days and almost ready to head to tromso where it will be really cold. I mean, it hasn’t been a picnic here weather wise and today it rained most of the day.

It is interesting.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/2 "2012-11-17T16:41:04Z")

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And for rest of us that don’t live down under and can’t see your link  
[http://www.public.asu.edu/~mharp/viking\_kittens/VikingKitten.htm](http://www.public.asu.edu/~mharp/viking_kittens/VikingKitten.htm)

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/3 "2012-11-17T18:12:03Z")

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I’m not sure how living down under enables me to see the link in Oslo, but thanks anyway 🙂

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/4 "2012-11-17T18:26:11Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> I’m not sure how living down under enables me to see the link in Oslo, but thanks anyway 🙂

I dunno, I was just going by your location (Australia). Either way, the link doesn’t work for those of us in the States.

ETA, I just saw the word Norway in the OP.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/5 "2012-11-17T18:32:08Z")

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Maybe restricted to Europe- anyway, thanks as I would not have known.

Been raining and dreary all day. If it was snowing it would at least be scenic (for me) but at the moment it has been- well, wet, and cold. I can understand the Vikings going overseas to invade other lands.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/6 "2012-11-17T18:54:32Z")

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Nope, just appears to be blocked for the US - I can see it fine. 🙂

It can’t be that cold if it’s raining! (From my Canadian perspective, anyway.)

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/7 "2012-11-17T19:02:19Z")

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Was about 30 Fahrenheit today- which from my Australian perspective is as cold as anywhere on earth ever needs to get.

Yesterday we did a harbour cruise. Expected some launch to turn up but nooooo- it was a schooner. When the bought out hurricane lanterns and blankets for everyone I guessed it would be cold but it was freezing! And the sun was out.

One thing I find unusual is the ability to take pets on public transport. You can be seeing eye to eye with some huge dog.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/8 "2012-11-17T19:10:50Z")

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-1ºC? Yeah, I’d put on a sweater at that temperature. 😃

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/9 "2012-11-17T19:18:46Z")

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I put on everything I owned. Even the sharp looking cossack hat I had bought (made in China.)

I looked like a defrocked priest.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/10 "2012-11-17T19:35:15Z")

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You warm weather people are so cute.

I don’t wear a coat till the temperature is in the 20F range. Not then if it’s sunny and still.

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/11 "2012-11-17T19:39:03Z")

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Should’ve come to Scotland!

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/12 "2012-11-17T19:41:11Z")

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You’re telling me it doesn’t get cold in Scotland? What was that white stuff that kept me indoors in Braemar?

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**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/13 "2012-11-17T20:00:39Z")

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Having had some friends from Scotland, I understand that it does indeed get cold, but it presents no problem, so long as they can punch each other in the mouth to keep warm. 😉

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/14 "2012-11-18T00:15:44Z")

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Us Canadians go a different route - we prefer cuddling for warmth. (It’s a little surprising our birth rate isn’t higher.) 🙂

I have to admit, though, I can brag about cold weather, but I _die_ in the heat. Australia would kill me.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/15 "2012-11-18T00:46:48Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> You’re telling me it doesn’t get cold in Scotland? What was that white stuff that kept me indoors in Braemar?

Oh, those are sheep. They’re generally harmless.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/16 "2012-11-18T01:30:46Z")

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> [@Sattua](#):
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> You warm weather people are so cute.
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> I don’t wear a coat till the temperature is in the 20F range. Not then if it’s sunny and still.

Agree to all this. A former coworker of mine, born and raised in Sweden, laughs at all the Minnesotans who ask him about the cold there. It doesn’t get nearly as cold there as here.

For really cold weather, go to the center of a large land mass. Try Edmonton, Winnipeg, or Nizhny-Novgorad.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/17 "2012-11-18T15:24:41Z")

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> [@carnut](#):
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> For really cold weather, go to the center of a large land mass.

(raises hand)  
ooh, wait! I’ve got a better idea!  
DON’T go there…

Jeez,… what’s with you tundra addicts?  
It’s like listening to some bore at a cocktail party tell you how great it was to be poor, and how he benefitted so much, and enjoyed it…  
Yeah, buddy. I get—you didn’t have any other options, so you made the best of it, yadda, yadda…Good for you. But just 'cause you got your religion, don’t bother playing evangelist to me, 'cause I ain’t converting.  
Me, I live in a nice sunny climate where I keep all my windows open almost all year round, with the smell of jasmine and lavender wafting through my house from the garden, which is always full of colorful flowers in bloom, year-round.

And now: a data point, to determine once and for all which climate is worse:  
There was once a fine little program on the National Georgraphic Channe. Four episodes in a seriesl where a reporter visited the 4 most extreme points on earth that are inhabited full time. The hottest, the coldest, the driest, and the wettest places he could find.

The hottest spot was in the Sahara desert. He joined the locals there to live with a family and learn their lifestyle, and with every movement of his body,he was clearly suffering discomfort from the heat. He had trouble smiling for the camera.

The coldest spot was in Siberia. When he joined the locals there to live, he also tried to join in their lifestyle…But with each movement of his body, he was not just suffering…he was terrified of the extreme pain involved. He made no attempt to smile—you could see the pain on his face.

So I hereby declare it official—an objective reporter from a respected nature journal has proven that winter hurts more than summer.  
All you Norwegians and Minnesotans are, well,…Norwegians and Minnesotans.

(and in case you’re wondering about the other two extremes dicussed on the program: the dryest climate was in the Andes mountains of Peru, where the climate was, of course, dry…but not particulary unpleasant .  
And the wettest climate was a village in India during the monsoons…That episode of the show was a fascinating look at human stupidity. The rain is nonstop and drenching.so the villagers are constantly wet, and don’t try to avoid it. Okay…But the stupid thing is that they build their houses with tin roofs,on which the rain echoes so loudly that the reporter said you can’t carry on a conversation inside the house. Also, it makes you feel like you have to go pee all the time.Now, who wants to live like that? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/18 "2012-11-18T18:30:13Z")

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Well, you don’t live outside in cold weather. I’ve lived in winter in Northern Canada - I was almost never uncomfortable unless I was going for a walk, and then I would wear appropriate clothing. I’m not sure why he would be in so much discomfort. 😕

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/19 "2012-11-18T23:55:08Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> (raises hand)  
> ooh, wait! I’ve got a better idea!  
> DON’T go there…
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> Jeez,… what’s with you tundra addicts?  
> It’s like listening to some bore at a cocktail party tell you how great it was to be poor, and how he benefitted so much, and enjoyed it…

What is with you people who like hot, sunny climes? Y’all bore me to tears with your constant bragging about your hot, sunny climes. 😉

As for needing to pee a lot. Maybe some people like it. 🆒

No climate is worse. Maybe we all just prefer different things.

Cicero, I hope the weather changes for you to either snow or sun.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-come-from-the-land-of-the-ice-and-snow/641318/20 "2012-11-19T00:33:10Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> And for rest of us that don’t live down under and can’t see your link  
> [Sign in ・ Cloudflare Access](http://www.public.asu.edu/~mharp/viking_kittens/VikingKitten.htm)

Thank you so much for that link! I’d lost my own and missed it. You can find different versions on YouTube but yours is the best one.

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