# We could all wear ICE gear

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 27, 2026, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077 "2026-01-27T08:49:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Happytree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happytree/32/3555_2.png) [@Happytree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happytree)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/1 "2026-01-27T08:49:49Z")

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In the pit because I’m gonna get some flack.

We should ALL get stupid cos play “Tactical outfits” , fake Temu Oakley’s, and masks, etc.

How could anyone tell who who if we’re all unidentified masked men demanding identification from other anonymous masked men? Check mate!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/2 "2026-01-27T13:08:34Z")

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To what end?

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/3 "2026-01-27T13:41:00Z")

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Fake Oakley are worth keeping.

Any time you jump up on a bicycle wearing them, you are instantly recognized as a cyclist, and thus do not have to follow the rules of the road.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/4 "2026-01-27T13:44:18Z")

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Folks could still recognize the real ICE agents, because they’d be the ones wearing fake-tactical gear while kicking down doors, shooting people, and kidnapping people.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/5 "2026-01-27T13:44:23Z")

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We could all do a lot of stupid shit. Some of us have productive lives that have scant time for cosplaying revolutionary. Now, excuse me, I’ve got some Expedition 33 to play.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/6 "2026-01-27T13:54:50Z")

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I would reverse the letters. ECI ‘Icky’

Time to write my congressmen for a 6th time I think? I’m losing track.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/7 "2026-01-27T13:57:10Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> To what end?

You can accuse actual ICE agents of being imposters and demand their ID?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/8 "2026-01-27T14:15:30Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> You can accuse actual ICE agents of being imposters and demand their ID?.

Leading to scenes like this one across the country:

[![](https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2022-01/30/17/asset/0993aa7da167/sub-buzz-5202-1643564463-3.jpg?downsize=900:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto) ](https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2022-01/30/17/asset/0993aa7da167/sub-buzz-5202-1643564463-3.jpg?downsize=900:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto)

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/9 "2026-01-27T14:20:14Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Leading to scenes like this one across the country

Reminds me of this classic:

> **[Undercover Detroit police attempt to arrest each other in 'embarassing' drug...](https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/11/15/Undercover-Detroit-police-attempt-to-arrest-each-other-in-embarassing-drug-bust/8361510804710/)**
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> A group of undercover Detroit police posing as drug dealers tried to arrest undercover police posing as drug buyers, resulting in a massive brawl.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/10 "2026-01-27T14:44:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> To what end?

Exactly. What is this supposed to accomplish?

Are we supposed to dress up like ICE agents so we can go out and shoot people like they do? No thanks.

Are we supposed to dress up like ICE agents so we can walk around in public and not do anything bad? That might make people think ICE agents are okay.

Are we supposed to dress up like ICE agents so we can hurt their reputation by doing things that are worse than real ICE agents are doing? Sorry, but I don’t want to commit any crime so horrible even an ICE agent would hesitate to do it.

Are we supposed to dress up like ICE agents until we get stopped by the police and arrested for impersonating ICE agents? That’s just going to start the story going that there are fake ICE agents running around and real ICE agents who are committing crimes will use it to protect themselves.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/11 "2026-01-27T14:54:10Z")

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The tacticool Meal Team 6 militant right has been doing this for years! Only problem is they then end up killing additional folks (see Rittenhouse). I don’t think it’s a good idea for the saner left to take up the nutjobs tactics.  
[![](https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/far_right_extremism_guns-1536x1024.jpg) ](https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/far_right_extremism_guns-1536x1024.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/12 "2026-01-27T15:11:55Z")

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Honestly? Infiltrate them. Record them. Learn their plans, if they have any.

These are poorly-trained, poorly-organized _masked_ thugs. Infiltrating their ranks would be trivially easy.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Are we supposed to dress up like ICE agents until we get stopped by the police and arrested for impersonating ICE agents? That’s just going to start the story going that there are fake ICE agents running around and real ICE agents who are committing crimes will use it to protect themselves.

Not that getting arrested is good, but if ICE knows there are people walking around impersonating them it’ll scare the crap out of them, make them paranoid, and hurt their morale. Whether or not that’s a good thing is an interesting question.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/13 "2026-01-27T15:13:41Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> The tacticool Meal Team 6 militant right has been doing this for years!

I sincerely want to know what those people (like in the photo) are thinking. Not some left-wing interpretation, but really. They had to buy that stuff. “Would you like your AR-15 in black?” “No I need tactical camo. You never know!”

They go home a night, and …what? Suck a six pack and fall asleep in front of NCIS reruns? Imagining Ziva is their girlfriend?

And the woman (I’m fairly sure) on the right? How low is her self esteem, that she wants to cosplay with the he man women haters club?

Camo gun, camo mask, camo vest…and a HAWAIIAN SHIRT?? That guy is too cool for school! Plus web belt carriers for all the twinkies!

PS what is that flag? The flag of Margaritaville?

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**Author:** ![doomtastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@doomtastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doomtastic)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/14 "2026-01-27T15:18:16Z")

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The far-right has enough conspiracy theories about false flag operations. I’d rather not encourage them with evidence of people actually trying to impersonate “them”.

I do think it would be hilarious to show up in, ah, _opposing_ uniforms. Instead of tacti-cool, show up in tacti-spicy. Neon camo, badges that say FIRE instead of ICE, lots of flame motifs.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/15 "2026-01-27T15:20:03Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Honestly? Infiltrate them. Record them. Learn their plans, if they have any.
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> These are poorly-trained, poorly-organized _masked_ thugs. Infiltrating their ranks would be trivially easy.
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> Not that getting arrested is good, but if ICE knows there are people walking around impersonating them it’ll scare the crap out of them, make them paranoid, and hurt their morale. Whether or not that’s a good thing is an interesting question.

I think we’ve passed this point. We don’t need to gather evidence of what ICE agents are planning on doing. We’ve got videotapes of them committing murders.

What we need to be doing now is arresting ICE agents and presenting the evidence in court.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/16 "2026-01-27T15:22:07Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I sincerely want to know what those people (like in the photo) are thinking. Not some left-wing interpretation, but really. They had to buy that stuff. “Would you like your AR-15 in black?” “No I need tactical camo. You never know!”

The sincere/steelman interpretation is probably that they just think it’s cool (see: tactical). Same reason that some people get their gun in hot pink, or any other color.

What that says about their taste I will leave up to the reader to decide.

> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> PS what is that flag? The flag of Margaritaville?

The “Thin Floral Line” flag honoring waiters and bartenders who work at Tiki themed bar-and-grills.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/17 "2026-01-27T15:34:40Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> The sincere/steelman interpretation is probably that they just think it’s cool

I guess that’s my core question. Why do they think it is cool to preen around pretending to be military, instead of becoming actual military? Yes, the military doesn’t want them. Then why don’t they realize they aren’t actually cool? (why doesn’t Musk realize that? These are the questions that confound us.)

I know, I’m danger close to doing what I don’t want, giving my own “liberal interpretation”, but I am genuinely curious. I stopped dressing up as someone I’m not a long time ago. I once actually bought a surplus navy flight jumpsuit, because it was cool, but then I realized I could never wear it without looking stupid, seeing as I am not a naval aviator.

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**Author:** ![doomtastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@doomtastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doomtastic)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/18 "2026-01-27T15:47:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I guess that’s my core question. Why do they think it is cool to preen around pretending to be military, instead of becoming actual military?

This is assuming they aren’t ex-military first of all. Second, it doesn’t seem any different than associating oneself with any other thing one deems cool. Sports jerseys, shirts for specific bands or concerts. You’re signaling to others which in-group you consider yourself apart of.

In other words - lifestyle merch

edit: well, no different in concept anyway…

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/19 "2026-01-27T15:57:33Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I guess that’s my core question. Why do they think it is cool to preen around pretending to be military, instead of becoming actual military? Yes, the military doesn’t want them. Then why don’t they realize they aren’t actually cool? (why doesn’t Musk realize that? These are the questions that confound us.)

There’s no accounting for taste I suppose.

I mean, it’s not like right wing dumbasses have a monopoly on this sort of cringe bullshit - why does Hasan Piker (a leftist Twitch star with millions of followers) think that posing in Resistance-Chic outfits like a wannabe Hezbollah fighter is a cool way to sell t-shirts with his dog’s face on them?

[![](https://i.ibb.co/JZMMZbQ/Screenshot-20260127-074638-Google.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/JZMMZbQ/Screenshot-20260127-074638-Google.jpg)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2026, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-could-all-wear-ice-gear/1027077/20 "2026-01-27T16:04:34Z")

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> [@doomtastic](#):
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> Second, it doesn’t seem any different than associating oneself with any other thing one deems cool. Sports jerseys, shirts for specific bands or concerts. You’re signaling to others which in-group you consider yourself apart of.

On one hand, you have someone wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt. On the other, you have someone decked out in tactical gear and armor, an AR-15 festooned with every option available, and packed into the back of U-Haul truck, along with a couple dozen other like-minded individuals to go break up a Pride event.

Yeah, they seem the same.

[https://www.npr.org/2022/06/11/1104405804/patriot-front-white-supremacist-arrested-near-idaho-pride](https://www.npr.org/2022/06/11/1104405804/patriot-front-white-supremacist-arrested-near-idaho-pride)

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