# "We do not have filtering software" does not mean "We LOVE porn!" you mongoloid

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 13, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490 "2006-04-13T06:22:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/21 "2006-04-13T19:44:00Z")

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Oh yeah:

[QUOTE=Sampiro]

By several reliable accounts, the photo could not have been more staged and the student has in fact used _the exact same photographic image in other projects_!  
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You mean to say he has a fondness for a particular depiction of a large, well built shiny black man humping a white human in spike heels (gender indeterminate due to obscuring bar)? _Really?_ Shocked, shocked, shocked. 😃

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/22 "2006-04-13T19:45:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Ponder Stibbons]  
I notice there was [this followup](http://www.cw.ua.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/04/10/4439e895a0c29) a few days after the article mentioned in the OP.  
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[QUOTE=THE CUM RAG…err, The Crimson White]  
…there might come a day when you’re sitting in one of the many library computer labs on campus simply minding your own business as an odd-looking guy sits next to you. As you go about your work or your Internet surfing, he starts to visit some mighty odd Web sites - pornographic ones, to be exact.  
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Whew! So only odd-looking people look at Pr0n! I’ll keep an eye peeled for odd-looking preverts.

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**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/23 "2006-04-13T20:24:55Z")

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Well, **Sampiro** , you have lots of sympathy from a fellow librarian, but I have no help for you. I’m rather surprised to find this happening at a university library–it’s usually the public libraries that have this problem. I guess I’m a little naive to expect college students to understand the reasoning.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/24 "2006-04-13T20:49:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Merneith]  
This totally made my day.  
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Right ON! Glad I could make ya happy. 🆒  
I love that movie!

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/25 "2006-04-13T20:53:48Z")

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[QUOTE=tdn]

> [@Miller](#):
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> “The Crimson White”?

Wouldn’t that be pink?  
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I was thinking more like Redneck.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/26 "2006-04-13T21:23:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Smeghead]  
So…is “mongloid” better or worse than “spaz”? I’m working on a definitive ranking of all mildly offensive words.  
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Mongoloid should NOT be used in this pejorative way. It is a racial term referring to certain Asians and Native Americans, or at least it is when spelled correctly. It makes no sense in this context.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/27 "2006-04-13T21:29:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Lance Murdoch]  
Mongoloid should NOT be used in this pejorative way. It is a racial term referring to certain Asians and Native Americans, or at least it is when spelled correctly. It makes no sense in this context.  
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It’s not only a racial descriptor. It’s an older name for the condition of hydroencephaly - which in less extreme cases can cause brain damage. I’m not going to link that - but if you want to freak yourself out with pictures of baby aliens, do a Google image search for it.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/28 "2006-04-13T21:53:09Z")

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[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]  
It’s not only a racial descriptor. It’s an older name for the condition of hydroencephaly - which in less extreme cases can cause brain damage. I’m not going to link that - but if you want to freak yourself out with pictures of baby aliens, do a Google image search for it.  
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Maybe they’re the “odd-looking people” who are surfing all the Pr0n??

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**Author:** ![Kyyrewyyoae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Kyyrewyyoae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyyrewyyoae)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/29 "2006-04-13T22:07:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Lance Murdoch]  
Mongoloid should NOT be used in this pejorative way. It is a racial term referring to certain Asians and Native Americans, or at least it is when spelled correctly. It makes no sense in this context.  
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From Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:

Main Entry: Mon·gol·oid  
Pronunciation: 'mä[ng]-g&-"loid  
Function: adjective  
1 : of, constituting, or characteristic of a major racial stock native to Asia as classified according to physical features (as the presence of an epicanthic fold) that includes peoples of northern and eastern Asia, Malaysians, Eskimos, and often American Indians  
2 often not capitalized, sometimes offensive : of, relating to, or affected with Down syndrome

- Mongoloid noun

I think the second definition is the one the OP was going for. It’s like calling someone a retard, or a helmet stand, or Corky. Makes sense to me.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/30 "2006-04-13T22:31:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Kyyrewyyoae]  
I think the second definition is the one the OP was going for. It’s like calling someone a retard, or a helmet stand, or Corky. Makes sense to me.  
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And there’s where I have a problem. In the course of my life I’ve had occasion to work with several children with Down syndrome, and they were in every way superior to the subject of the OP. So calling this induhvidual “mongoloid” is indeed an insult—to the hydroencephalics of the world.

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**Author:** ![Kyyrewyyoae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Kyyrewyyoae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyyrewyyoae)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/31 "2006-04-13T22:42:28Z")

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[QUOTE=OttoDaFe]  
So calling this induhvidual “mongoloid” is indeed an insult—to the hydroencephalics of the world.  
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Agreed, it’s not a polite thing to say. But this is the Pit, after all. Anyway, I was just pointing out to **Captain Lance Murdoch** that the word does make sense in this context. But this isn’t really the point of the thread.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/32 "2006-04-13T23:40:03Z")

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[QUOTE=OttoDaFe]  
And there’s where I have a problem. In the course of my life I’ve had occasion to work with several children with Down syndrome, and they were in every way superior to the subject of the OP. So calling this induhvidual “mongoloid” is indeed an insult—to the hydroencephalics of the world.  
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By the way, it’s a testament to the success of people who fought againt the use of this word both as an insult and as a qualifier for people with Down syndrome that some (like \*\* Captain Lance Murdoch \*\* ) don’t even know anymore what it refers to and mistake it for a racial epithet.  
I’ve seen the same thing happening here, and noticed it when on some french message board, someone asked why “Mongol” had been previously used as an insult and someone else “explained” that it was because Mongols used to be threatening barbarian hordes. IOW, both had no clue, while, when I was a teenager “mongol” was commonly used and readily understood by everybody (both as an insult and as a reference to Down syndrome).

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/33 "2006-04-13T23:49:10Z")

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In one of my favorite novels, _Confederacy of Dunces_, Ignatius J. Reilly replies to a (perfectly valid) complaint letter to the company he works for with the heading “To Mr. I Abelman, Mongoloid, Esq.”. This is why I use it- it has a cool ring to it.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/34 "2006-04-14T00:37:37Z")

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[QUOTE=dangermom]  
I guess I’m a little naive to expect college students to understand the reasoning.  
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Just because an 18-year-old Fundie goes off to college doesn’t miraculously transform him into an 18-year-old librul college kid. There’s a sizeable contingent of people in the world who believe that if you ain’t fist-pounding-on-the-pulpit agin somethin’, then you’re for it. Thus the whole “Library loves it some porn” mindset, because if the Library was _against_ porn, then they’d have filtering software, but they don’t, so therefore they ain’t.

…see.

And I’d like to add that this is one of the most elegantly pithy sentences I’ve ever read in the Pit:

> [@](#):
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> **Good gawd but I hate people sometimes, be they officious pencil pushers with no understanding of human nature or college students in search of a cause and no great desire to understand it.**

Yup.

😃

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/35 "2006-04-14T00:47:33Z")

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Sanpiro? Hello? I believe the proper term is [mongo.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7286716&postcount=18)

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/36 "2006-04-14T01:00:07Z")

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This is what you get for living in Alabama, one of the (few) places Tennessee can look down on.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/37 "2006-04-14T01:05:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
I believe the proper term is [mongo.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7286716&postcount=18)  
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Are you sure you want to tell [him](http://100megsfree4.com/nzwa/Sludge.jpg) [that](http://reedfamilyranch.com/private/forum/images/avatars/mongo-blazing-saddles.gif) his name is not complimentary?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/38 "2006-04-14T01:19:50Z")

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[QUOTE=OtakuLoki]  
Are you sure you want to tell [him](http://100megsfree4.com/nzwa/Sludge.jpg) [that](http://reedfamilyranch.com/private/forum/images/avatars/mongo-blazing-saddles.gif) his name is not complimentary?  
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[I think I already did.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7290721&postcount=52)

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**Author:** ![mikefaulk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@mikefaulk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikefaulk)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/39 "2006-04-14T02:19:02Z")

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Hi, I’m Mike Faulk and I wrote the story you’re whining about. I would really like an opportunity to discuss it with you, since you’re analyzation of it is grossly inaccurate, such as the “librarian” you mention, though the only library staff member used in the story or who I talked to at all was the Dean (who, by the way, called me to say he loved the story and I “perfectly” articulated his points). The person who commented on the CW Web site saying I had used the photo before was one of our former staffers, Graham Flanagan (who goes by The Source when he comments), joking around: something that should be obvious to the non-“zealous.” I also took the photo of the porn that was found saved on the computer with another library staff member present, she said she thought it was hilarious. As a matter of fact, every part of your argument against the story is inaccurate all the way down to getting the title right (the print title was Porn OK in UA Libraries, not Libraries OK with Porn). The intent of the article was not to crack down on libraries, but just to let people know about something out of the ordinary that happens all the time in the libraries they use.

As for me, I’m a liberal atheist, borderline anarchist and really don’t give a fuck about people’s sex lives or love of porn (or where they look at it, save for the computer that I choose to use.) Seriously. My office phone number is XXXXXXXXXX and my e-mail is XXXXX. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/40 "2006-04-14T02:30:28Z")

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Mike, you might want to email **Sampiro**. His address is in his profile, so I will give it to you [--J.Sampiro@gmail.com](mailto:--J.Sampiro@gmail.com)

TPTB frown upon off-board clashes being brought on-board. ( Not trying to Jr. Mod here. I could be wrong about this specific issue.)

Personally, I am interested in how this resolves. Email **Sampiro**. He is a righteous dude.

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