# "We do not have filtering software" does not mean "We LOVE porn!" you mongoloid **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490 "2006-04-13T06:22:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/41 "2006-04-14T02:46:39Z")
[QUOTE=mikefaulk] Hi, I’m Mike Faulk and I wrote the story you’re whining about. I would really like an opportunity to discuss it with you, since you’re analyzation of it is grossly inaccurate, such as the “librarian” you mention, though the only library staff member used in the story or who I talked to at all was the Dean (who, by the way, called me to say he loved the story and I “perfectly” articulated his points). The person who commented on the CW Web site saying I had used the photo before was one of our former staffers, Graham Flanagan (who goes by The Source when he comments), joking around: something that should be obvious to the non-“zealous.” I also took the photo of the porn that was found saved on the computer with another library staff member present, she said she thought it was hilarious. As a matter of fact, every part of your argument against the story is inaccurate all the way down to getting the title right (the print title was Porn OK in UA Libraries, not Libraries OK with Porn). The intent of the article was not to crack down on libraries, but just to let people know about something out of the ordinary that happens all the time in the libraries they use. [/QUOTE] I feel bad for your copyeditors. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/42 "2006-04-14T03:00:14Z")
[QUOTE=mikefaulk] I also took the photo of the porn that was found saved on the computer with another library staff member present, she said she thought it was hilarious. [/QUOTE] I’ve sent you some private e-mails. As to the library staff member- **DO NOT LET THAT BE KNOWN** as I **100% ASSURE YOU** she would be fired immediately. In fact when we speak do not even tell **me** who it was because I cannot legally keep the information confidential if asked about it. For one thing the library has a clear [NO PHOTOGRAPHS POLICY](http://www.lib.ua.edu/policies/librariesphotography.htm) and that alone is enough to lose her job (especially since one of the librarians and one of the students in the photograph are FURIOUS over the issue). As for the dean loving the article, I won’t dispute what he told you, but rest assured- he did not. At all. As in… well, I’ll just say I will gladly speak with you on the issue and tell you about it (though it must wait until after next Tuesday as I have to go out of town on a family matter). ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/43 "2006-04-14T03:09:55Z")
[QUOTE=Garfield226] I feel bad for your copyeditors. [/QUOTE] I’m not sure student newspapers have copyeditors. You wouldn’t believe some of the mistakes I’ve caught in various school papers over the years. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/44 "2006-04-14T03:13:58Z")
[QUOTE=asterion] I’m not sure student newspapers have copyeditors. You wouldn’t believe some of the mistakes I’ve caught in various school papers over the years. [/QUOTE] They do, how else are they going to learn all about journalism? Some people actually want the job of copy editor. What better place to learn to use the red pencil brutally than on fellow hapless students? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/45 "2006-04-14T04:11:35Z")
Just what is an analyzation, anyways? Sounds like something one might find a video of on a porn site or something. ---
**Author:** ![mikefaulk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@mikefaulk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikefaulk)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/46 "2006-04-14T06:13:09Z")
Damn. Burned. ---
**Author:** ![mikefaulk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@mikefaulk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikefaulk)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/47 "2006-04-14T06:31:06Z")
[QUOTE=mikefaulk] Damn. Burned. [/QUOTE] "analyzation The act of analyzing, or separating into constituent parts; analysis. Source: Websters Dictionary (01 Mar 1998) " From CancerWEB’s online dictionary. Good enough. ---
**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/48 "2006-04-14T06:35:45Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] I’m intentionally going to keep this brief [/QUOTE] You fucked that one up :wally ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/49 "2006-04-14T06:37:33Z")
[QUOTE=Eleusis] You fucked that one up :wally [/QUOTE] Brief is relative. If it were the Illiad we’d still be waiting for Achilles to get pissy. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/50 "2006-04-14T06:40:26Z")
Re: analyzation Just because G W Bush used a word in a speech once doesn’t make it a proper part of the English language. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/51 "2006-04-14T06:49:53Z")
You may like [John Zorn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Zorn) as well. He’s not as visceral as Gabriel and he’s hit & miss, but some of his Masada works are wonderful. My favorite moments of his that I’ve heard were on [Bar Kokbha](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000003YTK/ref=pd_bxgy_img_a/102-5408454-2383309?%5Fencoding=UTF8). (I don’t have the liner notes, just itunes of them, so I’m really not sure why he called it Bar Kokbha. (Perhaps he makes his guitarists cut off a finger to demonstrate loyalty or, like bar Kokbha and Lennon, he feels he’s “more popular than Christ”; I just hope the Jews don’t have to leave Jerusalem again because of him.) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/52 "2006-04-14T06:50:55Z")
Apologies. The above was for another thread. ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/53 "2006-04-14T07:40:30Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] …TPTB frown upon off-board clashes being brought on-board. ( Not trying to Jr. Mod here. I could be wrong about this specific issue.) [/QUOTE] I’m not trying to mod either, but I wouldn’t define mikefaulk’s reply as a vanilla-like IRL clash. He even took being referred to as a disingenuous mongoloid in stride. I have to assume the only thing the staff will do is edit out his contact number. Oh, and disc #1 of the Bar Kokhba compilation is a far better set than disc 2 is. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/54 "2006-04-14T08:01:59Z")
Yeah, **Sampiro,** I read the article and found it to be more of an interesting, “whaddya’ know,” type bit rather than a hardline diatribe on the need for comprehensive control for the pornographic scourge which is overwhelming the good Christian values of the poor 'wittle U of A freshmen. Also, props for Faulk for coming online to defend the article. Perhaps you should consider sticking around. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/55 "2006-04-14T11:38:14Z")
[QUOTE=mikefaulk] "analyzation The act of analyzing, or separating into constituent parts; analysis. Source: Websters Dictionary (01 Mar 1998) " From CancerWEB’s online dictionary. Good enough. [/QUOTE] Yes, but a lot of us Dopers tend to look down upon ‘managerese.’ I can accept that ‘analyzation’ has become an accepted word, while believing that it is a neologism that adds nothing to the language, especially as it means the same thing as the more familiar, and simpler, analysis. Heck, we recently had a thread where someone spoke about their hate for the neologism ‘flammable’ as a sop to those who lack the education to recognize that imflammable and inflammable do not mean the same thing. No one in that thread doubted the **use** of such a neologism - but there were still people saying that the word ‘flammable’ rubbed them the wrong way. And you want us to believe that ‘analyzation’ should be accepted, sans comment? 😉 I grant this is the same sort of thinking that has had people arguing that it’s poor form to end a sentence with a preposition; and that ain’t ain’t a word. I still believe that ‘analyzation,’ ‘orientate\*,’ and other examples of managerese where perfectly good, well-established words exist that mean **the same thing** is a particularly vile form of newspeak. It would be different if ‘analyzation’ offered some nuance of meaning that were not included in the word ‘analysis.’ I grant, such a nuace may come to be grafted onto the word. For the nonce, however, all it seems to add is a sense of pretention and the impression in some readers of a lack of a clear vocabularly on the part of person who uses it. \*this is for the ‘managerese’ version of orientate, which means nothing more or less than ‘brief.’ Rather than the outdoorsperson’s version of the word which means to locate, precisely, where one is in relation to a map and known landmarks. Having the SEAL talk about orientating the team after insertion makes complete sense. Having the supermarket manager talk about orientating the new hires does not. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/56 "2006-04-14T12:32:17Z")
[QUOTE=mikefaulk] As for me, I’m a liberal atheist, borderline anarchist and really don’t give a fuck about people’s sex lives or love of porn (or where they look at it, save for the computer that I choose to use.) Seriously. My office phone number is XXXXXXXXXX and my e-mail is XXXXX. Thanks. [/QUOTE] As we have no way of verifying that you are who you say you are, I have removed the personal information from this post. I have removed the phone number; the email address was also removed as it is not the one belonging to this username, and therefore has not been the one receiving the confirmation e-mail from our site. We simply wish to take precautions so that someone is not bothered in real life by those using our site. Please do not repost this personal information, though you may update the e-mail address in your profile if you wish. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/57 "2006-04-14T14:04:15Z")
Hey Otaku, you’re needed over [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=365683) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/58 "2006-04-14T14:26:39Z")
[QUOTE=mikefaulk] Hi, I’m Mike Faulk and I wrote the story you’re whining about. I also took the photo of the porn that was found saved on the computer with another library staff member present, she said she thought it was hilarious. [/QUOTE] You know, if you had loaded that pic yourself there, you could literally say that you “found” it “saved”. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/59 "2006-04-14T17:36:36Z")
[QUOTE=mikefaulk] …My office phone number is XXXXXXXXXX and my e-mail is XXXXX. Thanks. _Last edited by fluiddruid : Today at 08:29 AM. Reason: Removed personal information_ [/QUOTE] Maybe it’s just me, but I think an edit that contained a Triple-X email and Double-X phone number would’ve been far more befitting for the the subject _at hand_. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490/60 "2006-04-14T18:38:21Z")
[QUOTE=clairobscur] By the way, it’s a testament to the success of people who fought againt the use of this word both as an insult and as a qualifier for people with Down syndrome that some (like \*\* Captain Lance Murdoch \*\* ) don’t even know anymore what it refers to and mistake it for a racial epithet. I’ve seen the same thing happening here, and noticed it when on some french message board, someone asked why “Mongol” had been previously used as an insult and someone else “explained” that it was because Mongols used to be threatening barbarian hordes. IOW, both had no clue, while, when I was a teenager “mongol” was commonly used and readily understood by everybody (both as an insult and as a reference to Down syndrome). [/QUOTE] Don’t presume what I don’t know. I don’t see how the DS reference (which I already knew of) makes things any better though. Mongol is not the same as Mongoloid. Otherwise, I pretty much don’t follow this post. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-do-not-have-filtering-software-does-not-mean-we-love-porn-you-mongoloid/352490.md?page=4)