# We don't talk about that here, thank you. House rule. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925 "2012-06-12T16:19:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/41 "2012-06-12T20:50:05Z")
> [@Rubixcube](#): > > There were no _Dune_ novels after Frank Herbert’s death. This is true. Suggesting otherwise is the only know way to incite nerd rage in me. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/42 "2012-06-12T20:53:39Z")
The first five Amber books are, frankly, overrated - at least compared to much of Roger Zelazny’s other output. That said, the concept is great, and they’re a fun read. The second five Amber books, though, I’d rather not talk about. Zelazny should have spent the 80’s writing sequels to\* Creatures of Light and Darkness \*or \*Roadmarks \*instead. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/43 "2012-06-12T20:54:49Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > and the girl who plays Uhura whom I am very very sorry that I don’t remember her name. Zoe somebody. She looked a lot better when she was bright blue, mostly nekkid, and had big golden cat eyes, imo. Not saying she looks bad normally, but blue was a good look for her. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/44 "2012-06-12T20:59:06Z")
> [@Rubixcube](#): > > Wait…_Temple of Doom_ is hated? Every single person I’ve ever asked has ranked either above or equal to _Raiders_. I’ve heard people complain about Willy and Short-Round but I’ve never heard anyone actually hate the film, certainly never more than _Kingdom_. Uh, my post said I liked Temple of Doom, not hated it. > [@Indistinguishable](#): > > I think it’s widely acknowledged as the weakest of the original 3 (including by Spielberg himself, if Wikipedia is to be believed). Personally, I’m sort of not thrilled with the way it depicts India… Oh, don’t rely on Wikipedia only. He talks about it quite a bit on the DVD special features. [And in this exchange in an interview, he confirms his feelings:](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49921) > [@](#): > > ``` > Quint: Before I let you go, I do want to say that you need to quit beating up so much on Temple of Doom. I love that movie. > > ``` > > Steven Spielberg: You know, sometimes I can’t help myself. But the greatest thing about Temple of Doom was I met Kate Capshaw and I have seven children. We’ve been married for almost 20 years and that was my win on that movie. > > ``` > Quint: I met Kate very briefly at the War of the Worlds premiere in New York and I made sure to tell her “I know you probably don’t get it enough, but you’re great in Temple of Doom.” > > ``` > > Steven Spielberg: You’re sweet. By the way, she is great in Temple of Doom and I’m very, very lucky to have found my life partner. > > ``` > Quint: I love that movie because it’s so dramatically different from Raiders. The tone is different, you go from a suave villain in Belloq to a flashy villain in Mola Ram… > > ``` > > Steven Spielberg: Right. Here’s the thing… for all the fans of Temple of Doom who think I beat up too much on it, those fans who beat up on George Lucas 24/7 at the drop of any fedora, I would just say please give George credit. He’s the one that made it dark, he’s the one that decided on the story and on the concept. For all those who love Temple of Doom, you’ve gotta give George credit. > > ``` > Quint: I’ll absolutely give George credit for that. > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Rubixcube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rubixcube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubixcube)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/45 "2012-06-12T21:06:17Z")
I thought of a few more. _King Kong_ has never had a sequel, official or otherwise, and has never been remade. _Starship Troopers_ was made into a single film with a satirical take on it’s messages, there were no sequels. _Predator_ never received a sequel, and despite the popularity of the video games no _AVP_ movie was ever produced. _Tom & Jerry’s_ last cartoon together was in 1958, no cheap Deitch cartoons, and no watered down 60’s cartoons, and most definitely no movies. None of the other Hannibal Lector novels were ever adapted to screen. There were two _Exorcist_ films, the original and a in name only sequel based on an unrelated novel. After Bruce Lee’s tragic death the Chinese film industry respectfully moved on and never made another film using footage of him or lookalikes. There were two _Jurassic Park_ films, neither involved a T. Rex rampaging in L.A. _Sea Hunt_ was never remade in the 80’s Following the Ron Ely series no Tarzan television shows were produced until Disney’s _The Legend of Tarzan_ EDIT: > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Uh, my post said I liked Temple of Doom, not hated it. Yes, but your post implied that _Temple_ is commonly hated, I had never heard that hate before which is why I asked. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/46 "2012-06-12T21:10:19Z")
Some people, but not me, talk about a fifth book in the Hitchhiker’s Guide trilogy, in which Douglas Adams says a big FU to his fans by killing off all the characters with multidimensional finality, then leaves a loophole, then closes that loophole by dying himself. I’m not sure what it is about Temple of Doom that makes it so bad. It could be the racism, but there’s a certain amount of that in Raiders as well. I’d say it was more the reliance of gross-out scenes to compensate for the lack of a coherent story or any likeable characters, other than Indy himself. (If I spoke Hindi or had been to India, I might feel differently though. I know I liked Tomb Raider at least partly because I’d been to Siem Reap, Cambodia and recognized some of the locations.) ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/47 "2012-06-12T21:12:53Z")
[TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage), covers this with [Fanon Discontinuity](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanonDiscontinuity). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/48 "2012-06-12T21:23:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Starship Troopers was made into a single film with a satirical take on it’s messages, there were no sequels. Really? When? I acknowledge that there was a film titled _Starship Troopers_, but it didn’t bear any particular relationship to the book, so it’s perfectly correct to say that _Starship Troopers_ has never been made into a movie. Likewise, for _I, Robot_, or several other SF classics. On _Temple of Doom_, isn’t it made explicit within the movie itself that what’s being depicted isn’t real Indian culture? I seem to recall that being Indy’s first indication that something was wrong: The gross-out feast in an area that was supposed to be mostly vegetarian. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/49 "2012-06-12T21:32:46Z")
Charlie Brown never missed out on meeting the Little Red Haired Girl because he was reading _Gulliver’s Travels_ on New Year’s Eve. And Linus never found out her name was Heather. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/50 "2012-06-12T21:59:31Z")
We talk about the third Alien movie all the time here. I especially like how Hicks was the only guy secure enough in his manhood to try to co-habitat with Ripley once they got back to Earth. Hubby likes to harp on how social services would have never let a single woman prone to such violence raise a small child. The whole family agrees that a grown Newt and older but still tee-shirty wearing Ripley kicking the snot out of that ET bitch after she followed them to Earth and grew her nasty brood in the Old New York that lay a mile under New New York was the coolest thing ever. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/51 "2012-06-12T22:15:43Z")
The next-gen version of _Dallas_ (which we’ll probably end up not speaking of) reminds me that in the original version of _Dallas_ we must never speak of Bobby Ewing’s death, his miraculous resurrection, and especially not of the lame “it was all a dream” hand-waving that invalidated an entire season of other plot and character developments. We can, however, say that the final episode of _Newhart_ gave a shred of dignity to that unforgivable plot device. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/52 "2012-06-12T22:24:51Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > The next-gen version of _Dallas_ (which we’ll probably end up not speaking of) reminds me that in the original version of _Dallas_ we must never speak of Bobby Ewing’s death, his miraculous resurrection, and especially not of the lame “it was all a dream” hand-waving that invalidated an entire season of other plot and character developments. > > We can, however, say that the final episode of _Newhart_ gave a shred of dignity to that unforgivable plot device. It also wrecked the continuity on _Knotts Landing_. I saw a show in which they said that Duffy wanted to come back as did the original EP. Duffy got a deal which lead to _Step by Step_. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/53 "2012-06-12T23:05:43Z")
> [@Indistinguishable](#): > > It was rather odd how The Wire had only bits and pieces of a fifth season. I heard they were going to investigate the role of the press, but they hardly touched on it at all; perhaps David Simon decided he was too close to write objectively about it. What the hell are you talking about? That was _all they did_ in the fifth season! Just the press, no cops at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/54 "2012-06-12T23:07:42Z")
I love this thread. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/55 "2012-06-12T23:16:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Really? Because I thought there was a pretty general consensus that the second movie dropped the ball and the third movie picked it back up. _Temple of Doom_ had a wise-talking kid sidekick, and HE WASN’T THE WORST PART OF THE MOVIE. It was that bad. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/56 "2012-06-12T23:33:52Z")
I really enjoyed the four books in the _Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy_ “trilogy.” They were mostly harmless. Actually, _Mostly Harmless_ would have been a good title for a fifth book in the series. If Douglas Adams had written a fifth book in the series. Which he didn’t. Yep, I really enjoyed those four books. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/57 "2012-06-12T23:43:26Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > It is, of course, terribly silly to pretend that a given entry in a TV series, movie franchise, comic book run, or whatnot never happened. Why, even **I** refuse to do it any more, and I’m a nutjob. > > That said … there are still things we simply refuse to talk about. Yes, we **admit** that Chuck Austen wrote that X-Men run with Nightcrawler being a pawn in a plan to destroy the Catholic Church with magical communion wafers; we simply do not talk about it here so as not to give anyone an anger stroke. For similar reasons, we do not allow conversations about the novels _Hannibal_ or _Hannibal Rising_ because there are children present and it is not necessary to scar them needlessly; and it is likewise not necessary to go into any detail about the post-_Sin City_ work of Frank Miller because it makes people cry. > > Anything else? It has been said, Skald, that the post _Apocalypse Now_ work of Francis Ford Coppola causes stigmata and weeping in certain statues of the Virgin Mary. My very own grandmother, may God rest her soul, witnessed such a statue after a free screening of [Jack](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116669/). I do not believe in such nonsense, of course, but out of respect I never mention them in normal, polite day-to-day conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/58 "2012-06-12T23:51:41Z")
One day I woke up in a strange universe where they’d turned \*Fallout \*into a Diablo-like action game called “Brotherhood of Steel”, of all things. It was a console exclusive, too. Then I woke up again, this time in the real world. Dreams are very strange sometimes. I also get weird brain stutters, I guess you could call it\* vraiment jamais vu\* - the eerie, but thankfully ephemeral, notion that you vividly remember an event having taken place when it really hasn’t. Like, I once spent a whole morning remembering a scene from the movie \*Terminator 3 \*- but of course they only ever made two Terminator movies. The mind’s a tricky thing that way, it’ll fool you and you won’t even know. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/59 "2012-06-12T23:54:32Z")
I had this weird dream that the present and the past, they were both in the future! Also, [Lizard Babies](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/3/33/Transwarp_humans.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925/60 "2012-06-13T00:00:30Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I do not believe in such nonsense, of course, but out of respect I never mention them in normal, polite day-to-day conversation. Hey, I liked _One From the Heart._ Granted, it had one of the lowest percentage return on investment in the history of film (2.45%), and that it actually _caused_ FFC to make all those aforementioned films to pay off his debt. But still… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-dont-talk-about-that-here-thank-you-house-rule/624925.md?page=4)