# We get it magellan01, you're the bigottiest bigot who ever bigotted. Now shut up about your POV. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967 "2013-04-17T19:27:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/121 "2013-04-18T15:18:54Z")
Oh good, it was getting a bit stale just mocking magellan. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/122 "2013-04-18T15:19:44Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Are you high? I understand all the words in the reply, but not how they fit together in a way that has anything whatsoever to do with the post **CR** is presumably responding to. Maybe he’s genuinely a bot? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/123 "2013-04-18T15:43:49Z")
Oh, I can see how they fit together. It’s a stupid way but it’s there. You have to assume that A) there’s a finite amount of mocking we can do, B) mentioning two different topics in the same post means you consider them equivalent in urgency and C) be dumb as a post. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/124 "2013-04-18T15:56:45Z")
Someone really should say something nice about **Mags**. Really, somebody should. I would, but the dog is out of beer again… ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/125 "2013-04-18T16:19:50Z")
Magellan, who gives a shit if you are bothered that us gay-loving liberals are changing the definition of “your” word? Gay used to mean happy, now it just means REALLY happy 😉 And “pedophile” didn’t use to apply to those men who married 14 year olds. In fact, here’s a [list](http://writinghood.com/style/grammar/eight-words-which-have-completely-changed-their-meaning-over-time/) of words that have had their meanings changed over time. And here’s another [list](http://ezinearticles.com/?-Etymology--How-Words-Change-Over-Time&id=12709). And [another](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_shift). Nobody should give a flying fuck about how words change. Maybe by this time next year “assfuck” will mean “tolerant”. Up will be down, black will be white, and dumb ass bigots like you will be called Keiths because its the ugliest male name in the English language. Besides, you are one to talk. You take the name Magellan, a great explorer who risked his life to circumnavigate the globe, and you build walls around yourself so that you don’t have to listen or accept anything that frightens you and cocoon yourself in a tiny little world. Maybe I’m offended you are besmirching his name, maybe you should use your real name: Alfred E. Tightass. Your arguments are crap, your bigotry is offensive, and your fears are insane. Most people would be able to get a clue when they go 0 for 3 but not you, right? But you people are wrong and society will move on without you whether you like it or not. Your ONLY choice in this matter isn’t to accept gay marriage or not, but whether you want to be known as an assfucker or not. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/126 "2013-04-18T16:26:54Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > According to you, my participation would be more acceptable to you if I merely shared an opinion that, “I don’t think gay people should be allowed to marry each other”, and left it at that. No, cretin. I was responding to this line from Archaic Entity–you know, the line I quoted: > [@](#): > > Your opinion is yours on a controversial matter that is based on a social science. Therefore there is no objectively right or wrong answer–hence opinions. Your opinion wouldn’t be more acceptable; rather, it would not have an objectively right or wrong answer. It’s the “factual” claims you use to back up your stupid opinions that are objectively wrong and that render Archaic Entity’s judgment of you wrong. > [@](#): > > You know, when you type stuff, you’re not only endorsing the actual words you write, but the logical ramifications of them. Maybe it’s that logic thingy that’s screwing you up again. You seem to do much better when you’re not so emotional. Just an observation. Yes, professor, I know that. If you want to teach me about whether sushi makes you constipated, or what kind of underwear you wear, or what movies make you cry, please don’t, because I don’t care–but at least on those subjects you know more than I do. When you try to teach me about stuff where you range from ignorant to laughably incompetent, it’s just embarrassing for all parties. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/127 "2013-04-18T16:39:32Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Plain wrong. Quite a few countries both western and non-western define marriage to include two men or two women. > > Argentina > Belgium > Canada > Denmark > Iceland > Netherlands > Norway > Portugal > South Africa > Spain > Sweden New Zealand this week! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/128 "2013-04-18T17:02:10Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > Seriously, you have a Christian idiot here for his well-deserved mocking Not so sure that’s what we got here. There seem to be \*two \*main reasons for supporting bigotry: Leviticus and Eww! I’ve seen nothing to suggest he’s a Biblethumper, but he doesn’t have to be to be a bigot. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/129 "2013-04-18T17:11:40Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > the only thing that changed the day after that ruling was the heightened smug satisfaction of us (small l) liberal Canadians. And every day that passes, we can get justifiably smugger. It’s a good feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/130 "2013-04-18T17:21:18Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > New Zealand this week! I googled “ssm new zealand” for details, the first ten hits were mostly about safe ship management. For some reason, this amuses me. For further amusement, New Zealand Member of Parliament for Pakuranga Maurice Williamson’s [speech](http://news.sky.com/story/1079776/new-zealand-mps-gay-marriage-speech-goes-viral) on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/131 "2013-04-18T17:47:42Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Not so sure that’s what we got here. There seem to be \*two \*main reasons for supporting bigotry: Leviticus and Eww! I’ve seen nothing to suggest he’s a Biblethumper, but he doesn’t have to be to be a bigot. Reasons to oppose SSM: 1. Jesus would have been against it, if he had ever said anything about it, and anyone had ever wrote it down. Because I know what Jesus thought. 2. Ick. I don’t like to hear about this. So stop talking about it. 3. The word “marriage” must, unlike all other words, remain exactly as I personally define it, and this definition must be frozen in time forever. Change makes me personally uncomfortable, therefore society must never be allowed to change. 4. If gays marry, then the population will plummet, because then every man will have the uncontrollable impulse to marry another man and have that sweet, sweet cock forever. (usually said by severely closeted men, who think that ALL men crave cock, and the only thing stopping them is strict rules) ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/132 "2013-04-18T18:01:08Z")
Marriage has already been irreparably harmed. Receive any dowries lately? No more arranged marriages. And the final nail was when feminists and the Hallmark Card company conspired to invent the concept of romantic love back in 1920s. So yeah, if the gays want it, be my guest. You’re getting the burnt bread crumbs of Western civilization. > [@YogSosoth](#): > > You take the name Magellan, a great explorer who risked his life to circumnavigate the globe, and you build walls around yourself so that you don’t have to listen or accept anything that frightens you and cocoon yourself in a tiny little world. Maybe I’m offended you are besmirching his name, maybe you should use your real name: Alfred E. Tightass. MAGELLAN TOLD STATUS: NOT TOLD TOLD FUCKING TOLD NO COUNTRY FOR TOLD MEN ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/133 "2013-04-18T18:30:37Z")
Marriage as we knew it was destroyed when No-Fault Divorce became the norm. No more “Til Death,” it’s all now “For as Long as We Feel Like It.” No sanctity in that, no commitment backed by The Wrath of God. Marriage is now nothing more than a contract with an easy escape clause. Feh. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/134 "2013-04-18T19:45:43Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Marriage as we knew it was destroyed when No-Fault Divorce became the norm. No more “Til Death,” it’s all now “For as Long as We Feel Like It.” No sanctity in that, no commitment backed by The Wrath of God. Marriage is now nothing more than a contract with an easy escape clause. Feh. Yeah, at this point, it probaly has less sanctity than a cell phone contract. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/135 "2013-04-18T19:49:17Z")
In **Magellan** World, two women who have been committed life partners for 50 years or more are always going to be merely icky, but Britney Spears’ drunken Vegas weekend hookup stunts deserve full sanctity and recognition. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/136 "2013-04-19T14:50:35Z")
Or we could try this; > **[Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Coddled](https://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2939)** > > Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Coddled ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/137 "2013-04-19T16:54:17Z")
Mindlessly hating gays is so yesterday. Today, we are mindlessly hating Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/138 "2013-04-20T08:46:23Z")
I’ve never had much respect for people who are intolerable of change. There is never, ever any logic to be found in: “We must continue to do it this way because we’ve always done it this way.” Didn’t you ever read Shirley Jackson’s short story “The Lottery”? It’s not as if SSM will usurp **your right** to be “married.” It’s not going to change the essence of “marriage.” Why do you want to be so _stingy_ about access to that word? Why can’t you just be joyful for couples in love instead of quaking at the thought that the same term might apply to their relationship as yours? If being “married” is that important to opposite sex couples, why can’t you understand that it’s important to same sex couples? Are you afraid in time that some people will think you are gay because you are “married”? As an English teacher, part of my job was to teach the rules of language. That didn’t mean at all that the rules shouldn’t change! They change naturally! In light of all I’ve said, do you really wish to continue to be a pompous, miserly, unempathetic, ignorant ass? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/139 "2013-04-20T15:42:58Z")
Well, no, I guess I don’t. But abandoned by wolves, raised by Texans, what chance did I have? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967/140 "2013-04-20T15:48:07Z")
Well, either he’s stupid, he’s hateful, or he’s very old. (Old people actually begin to lose their ability to accept change even when it is logical and harmless to do so, and so sometimes they cannot fairly be accused of stupidity or hatred in the same way a normal person can.) It’s one of the three, or a combination thereof. Why even ask? It’s ALWAYS that. In 1952, magellan01 would have been screaming out against desegregation. In 1916 he would have been really upset about giving women the vote. In 1853 he would have been pro-slavery. magellan01s are always the same, in part because _it’s always the same pathology._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-get-it-magellan01-youre-the-bigottiest-bigot-who-ever-bigotted-now-shut-up-about-your-pov/655967.md?page=8)