# We have a new jerk off **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 9, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108 "2003-08-09T23:51:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/41 "2003-08-10T17:52:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SimonX \* > \*\*umm… > I mean accuses **december** of hating it when GWB looks _good_. \*\* You misread me! I was AGREEING with december! Don’t take your lack of comprehension skills and turn it against me! I pointed out your error instantly too, jeez. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/42 "2003-08-10T17:55:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monty2\_2001 \* > \*\*Thanks for the support. Apparently being a conservative is verboten here. I haven’t done anything except disagree with them, and here come the calls for a ban. Where’s the ‘debate’ of ‘Great Debates’? \*\* Get off it, martyrboy. There are plenty of conservatives here. They just talk out their ass sans substantiation as you do. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/43 "2003-08-10T17:55:40Z")
How nice of you to come. You aren’t being pitted for being conservative. I’m conservative and I’m pitting you. There’re many conservative posters who’re never, (or hardly ever), pitted. You’re being pitted for being an abrasive moron. ---
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/44 "2003-08-10T17:55:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \* > \*\*Get off it, martyrboy. There are plenty of conservatives here. > > They just talk out their ass sans substantiation as you do. \*\* Hah, I guess liberal opinions are somehow ‘correct’ and ‘substantiated’. Sure. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/45 "2003-08-10T17:56:53Z")
There’re many conservative who can actually compete well in the arena of ideas. You just aren’t one of them. ---
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/46 "2003-08-10T17:57:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SimonX \* > \*\*How nice of you to come. > > You aren’t being pitted for being conservative. I’m conservative and I’m pitting you. There’re many conservative posters who’re never, (or hardly ever), pitted. You’re being pitted for being an abrasive moron. \*\* And what the hell are you? I was commenting on a great debate thread. Why take it so damn personal? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/47 "2003-08-10T18:03:40Z")
Nope, sorry **monty2\_2001** , I have seen many conservatives here that do defend their points with good sources. They have my respect, many other lefties do not consider their positions verboten, I have seen for your accusations to the democratic party, you have no reliable defense for them (or even tried) hence, you are a jerk off. On preview: I see **SimonX** is showing you what I mean. And almost with the same tought! Great minds eh **SimonX**? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Publius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@Publius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Publius)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/48 "2003-08-10T18:04:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monty2\_2001 \* > \*\*Hah, I guess liberal opinions are somehow ‘correct’ and ‘substantiated’. Sure. \*\* **monty2** , let’s see if you can recognize the difference between a substantiated and unsubstantiated conservative opinion. [A:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202970) > [@](#): > > In most western nations, and especially in Europe, there has been a huge financial bias placed on society, which punishes people who have children and rewards the aged. Government budgets are increasingly dominated by Social Security and Medicare payments, financed by FICA taxes which are regressive and paid for by young working people. > > Force both people in a marriage to have to work to cover their taxes, and you make it extremely costly to have children. My wife and I wanted to have two children, but we only have one because we both work, and day care for two children is over $1,000/mo around here. For many people having children just isn’t an option. > > Another unintended consequence of heavy subsidy for the aged is that it breaks down the extended family. Back in the days before Social Security, it was common for elderly parents to move back in with their children, and partially pay for their way by helping to raise the grandchildren. This not only gave kids a stronger sense of family, but it spread the burden of child-rearing around and reduced the social cost of having children. Around here, if you look at houses more than 30-40 years old, you’ll find a LOT of them are described as having “mother-in-law suites”. Now, you never find those any more. [B:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203458&perpage=50&pagenumber=2) > [@](#): > > I honestly don’t understand why people here are mourning the death of the ba’ath party and uday/qusay so far. Which do you suppose would be closer to your contributions? ---
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/49 "2003-08-10T18:04:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* > \*\*Nope, sorry **monty2\_2001** , I have seen many conservatives here that do defend their points with good sources. They have my respect, many other lefties do not consider their positions verboten, I have seen for your accusations to the democratic party, you have no reliable defense for them (or even tried) hence, you are a jerk off. > > On preview: I see **SimonX** is showing you what I mean. And almost with the same tought! Great minds eh **SimonX**? 🙂 \*\* Yeah, and simonx bases a lot of his whining on misreading one of my posts. Some mind… You guys really have me in a jam here, lol. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/50 "2003-08-10T18:09:19Z")
Noticing that you are not capable of finding a good source for your accusations, yes indeed: you are in a jam. ---
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/51 "2003-08-10T18:15:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* > \*\*Noticing that you are not capable of finding a good source for your accusations, yes indeed: you are in a jam. \*\* My source is pointing out that simonx misread my post. It’s self contained. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/52 "2003-08-10T18:24:57Z")
**monty2\_2001** , you may have things to say. But you need to do better. So far your posts have been of the ilk of “how can they be fascists, they don’t have any bassoooons!” ---
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/53 "2003-08-10T18:26:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hawthorne \* > \*\ ***monty2\_2001** , you may have things to say. But you need to do better. So far your posts have been of the ilk of “how can they be fascists, they don’t have any bassoooons!” \*\* Sorry if I don’t react better to a hit piece thread against me. That kinda makes me manners go away. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/54 "2003-08-10T18:29:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monty2\_2001 \* > That kinda makes me manners go away. Stop! Stop! You’re slaying me! ---
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/55 "2003-08-10T18:30:39Z")
my, not me… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/56 "2003-08-10T18:39:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* > \*\*Noticing that you are not capable of finding a good source for your accusations, yes indeed: you are in a jam. \*\* I suspect he’s getting off on it. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/57 "2003-08-10T18:47:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by monty2\_2001 \* > \*\*My source is pointing out that simonx misread my post. It’s self contained. \*\* So have you been able to find an example of somone here mourning the death of the Iraqi Baath party? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/58 "2003-08-10T18:47:59Z")
**monty2\_2001** you accuse others of misreading you and you do the same, I was talking about your accusations regarding the Democratic Party, but it is obvious now that you are getting into the T area (you now: the ones the Orcs were jerking their chains), for you are forgetting(?) what you said on the “Anne Frank’s article - Definition of Naziism” thread. I take then that you really are not taking what you say seriously, so you are only looking for a reaction and not to offer anything else, since you did not support those allegations regarding the democrats, the charge of you being a jerk off stands. (Hi Guin!!!) ---
**Author:** ![monty2\_2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@monty2\_2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monty2_2001)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/59 "2003-08-10T18:51:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* > \*\*\*\*monty2\_2001\*\*you accuse others of misreading you and you do the same, I was talking about your accusations regarding the Democratic Party, but it is obvious now that you are getting into the T area (you now: the ones the Orcs were jerking their chains), for you are forgetting(?) what you said on the “Anne Frank’s article - Definition of Naziism” thread. > > I take then that you really are not taking what you say seriously, so you are only looking for a reaction and not to offer anything else, since you did not support those allegations regarding the democrats, the charge of you being a jerk off stands. > > (Hi Guin!!!) \*\* Ah, yes it’s my opinion that the NSDAP was similar to the modern liberal/leftwing movement. I back up the claim by stating both are for government control and ownership of industry and other stuff that should be controled privately. Is that better? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/60 "2003-08-10T19:02:15Z")
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