# We have a new jerk off

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 9, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108 "2003-08-09T23:51:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/101 "2003-08-11T03:31:42Z")

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I don`t speak Troll very well, so I´ll just watch by the sideline this time… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ShoNuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@ShoNuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShoNuff)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/102 "2003-08-11T04:58:15Z")

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You’re right, **monty2\_2001** , andros should follow your example of maturity and call everyone he disagrees with a Nazi.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/103 "2003-08-11T11:33:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by monty2\_2001 \*  
> \*\*You sure sound like a flaming leftwinger so far… You might want to consider switching parties to match your liberalism. \*\*

There’s more to being a conservative and/or being a Republican than the invasion of Iraq. Conservatism is about addressing reality instead of ideological fantasies.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/104 "2003-08-11T13:54:03Z")

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> Conservatism is about addressing reality instead of ideological fantasies.

That may be the _ideal_. Sadly, the reality’s been coming up a bit short lately.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/105 "2003-08-11T14:57:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Squink \*  
> \*\*That may be the _ideal_. Sadly, the reality’s been coming up a bit short lately. \*\*

In recent years, many morons have swallowed neo-con bullshit without even chewing on it a bit and have confused this shit with conservatism. Morons are mosons no matter what ideologies they proclaim. Neo-con ideology seems hopelessly naive and myopic. Of late, it’s been packaged in patriotic colors and a sense of being smart by association.  
Unfortunately smarts, are not acquirable like that. The arena of ideas is a valuable American institution. Repression, (or attempted repression), of this competition by name calling, (think Coulter), is definitively not from the conservative tradition as I know it. It’s definitely not a part of the American tradition.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/106 "2003-08-11T15:43:26Z")

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Moson? Is that a newly found subatomic particle?

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/107 "2003-08-11T15:51:03Z")

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The moson is an elementary particle that is the basic unit of stupidity, kind of like a photon is the basic unit of electromagnetic energy. Here, I’ll use it in a sentence:

“Captain, I’m detecting high levels of moson radiation from **monty2\_2001** ”

(good post, **SimonX**. I totally agree with you.)

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/108 "2003-08-11T21:52:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SimonX \*  
> As a Republican, I take exception to being grouped together with whatisname.

Considering how it seems like the Republican Party is being devoured by the radical right, I do wonder why you continue to affiliate yourself with them. You could easily label yourself an “independent” with no change in views, while avoiding the stigma of being lumped with the likes of **monty2\_2001**.

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**Author:** ![Henry\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d78d45/32.png) [@Henry\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henry_B)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-a-new-jerk-off/194108/109 "2003-08-14T07:32:24Z")

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Guys like **monty2\_2001** You find everywhere.  
I read once some unmoderated stuff in some site by New York Times. It was scaring.  
One thing **monty2\_2001** wrote somewhere was something like; “…we won the war in Iraq and now North Korea is next…”  
This kind of thinking is very common if You look at different unmoderated cites.

Unfortunately I find the same guys in different Finnish sites, and in Russia the nationalism is flaming high as hell.  
All respect to true conservatives, those that can think and debate, but these kind of ignorent pea-brains as **monty2\_2001** we should try to discuss with anyhow.  
Just because people should fight ignorance.

It is common ground, the common task for the conservatives, the liberals, the left etc.

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