# We Have Betrayed the Kurds **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 7, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-betrayed-the-kurds/841420 "2019-10-07T14:54:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 447
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-betrayed-the-kurds/841420/447 "2019-10-18T01:28:08Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Sounds like Rawanda Is that how Trump spells it? 😉 > [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Trump’s sudden decision to greenlight the Turkish invasion and pull out U.S. troops from Syria was made without consultation with his advisers and the military, who were caught by surprise by it. The Erdogan letter is also clearly personally dictated by Trump, rather than being written in a formal way by policy-making staff as is the norm when writing a letter to another head of state. It’s a one-man foreign policy, and that man is both profoundly ignorant and unhinged. At this point, I would not be surprised at all if Trump starts appointing himself as acting secretary of more than a few federal departments. > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I’m on board with the idea that “we should have talked to our allies first.” It’s probably worth mentioning here that Turkey is also a nominal ally, and we did apparently have some discussion with them about the matter beforehand, but anyways … it’s been quite obvious to me for some time now that President Trump overvalues / misuses the element of surprise when it comes to diplomacy / military matters, at least at times. His springing this on the world suddenly seems to be another case of that. It’s one of the aspects of his governing approach / personality that I don’t particularly care for. Are you serious? “Element of surprise” should have no place in governing a country. > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > It’s very probable. I consider the dems’ agenda generally destructive to the country. I hesitated to ask this, but my curiosity has gotten the better of me. **How is the Democratic Party’s platform (not “agenda”; it’s a party platform) “generally destructive to the country”?** Be specific and, as this is Great Debates, feel free to actually bolster your specifics with some kind of substantiation. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-betrayed-the-kurds/841420)._