# We Have Lost A Friend

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 30, 2002, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658 "2002-11-30T19:15:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Canby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Canby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canby)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/81 "2002-12-01T03:17:00Z")

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Damn.

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/82 "2002-12-01T03:31:19Z")

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My thoughts and best wishes go out to Scott’s family and friends. He’ll be greatly missed here.

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**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/83 "2002-12-01T03:41:14Z")

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How terribly sad. I didn’t interact much with him on the boards, but he seemed like a very nice man.

My condolences to his family.

Cheri, feel free to email me. I am so sorry.

We have lost a dear friend.

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**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/84 "2002-12-01T04:02:55Z")

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I only recognize a handful of usernames, so I never expected when I opened this thread that it would be someone I recognized. I can’t say I knew him, but your post makes me wish I did. Condolences to everyone who was close to him.

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**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/85 "2002-12-01T04:07:28Z")

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This is so damn sad, I can’t think of a thing to say, except that my heart goes out to all of his loved ones.

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**Author:** ![Spacegirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Spacegirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spacegirl)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/86 "2002-12-01T04:08:25Z")

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I just read the news link. How utterly terrible. I am so sorry. ☹

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/87 "2002-12-01T04:09:48Z")

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My deepest sympathies to his friends and family.

Haj

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/88 "2002-12-01T04:16:28Z")

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Dear God, that happened right down the road from me. I didn’t know it was one of us.

My heart breaks for his family and friends. I loved his posts.

(how lame does THAT sound? Oh well)

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/89 "2002-12-01T04:19:15Z")

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Damn. ☹

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**Author:** ![Spacegirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Spacegirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spacegirl)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/90 "2002-12-01T04:22:44Z")

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I just read the news link. How utterly terrible. I am so sorry. ☹

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/91 "2002-12-01T04:28:32Z")

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That’s so very sad.

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**Author:** ![purrplebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90ced4/32.png) [@purrplebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purrplebear)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/92 "2002-12-01T04:30:20Z")

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:eek:  
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Thank you for letting us know, **Cheri**. I know you were close friends, and this has hit you very hard. I’m here for you in any way I can be. Neither of us had any idea last night when you let me unload on you what today would bring. After I get some of the tears out, I will call you, dear friend.

**Poopah** , it was an honor to know you, even the little bit I was blessed with. The world is indeed a little bit darker without your light. Instead of thinking about how we are diminished by your loss, I will focus on how blessed and enriched we all are by having had you in our lives.

purrplebear, shoulders bowed, tears falling sadly on my cheeks, wishing she was close enough to hug Scott’s family and Cheri too…

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/93 "2002-12-01T04:37:34Z")

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We’ve lost a bright light. Once again, there’s no justice. Always the good people.

You take care of yourself **Scotticher**. You have always been generous with your compassion on these boards. Please don’t be shy to accept ours. If you need to talk, you know where to find us.

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**Author:** ![DarkWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee59a6/32.png) [@DarkWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/94 "2002-12-01T04:43:54Z")

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That is awful. I am so sorry. ☹

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**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/95 "2002-12-01T04:49:03Z")

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I am going to open a bottle of wine and do some toasting and recalling. The board is a sadder place tonight. **poopah** , I raise my glass to you.

TV

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/96 "2002-12-01T04:49:47Z")

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A sad howl from this kitty in New York City.

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/97 "2002-12-01T04:55:37Z")

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Yet another case study in bad things happening to good people. We’ll miss ya, Scott. And we thank you for all that you gave us.

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**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/98 "2002-12-01T04:59:06Z")

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/99 "2002-12-01T05:07:38Z")

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I am in no way religious, but there at times like these, familar words bring me some comfort. I have no idea if **Scott** was Jewish, and I certainly don’t mean to offend anyone, but I like the Mourner’s Kaddish, because as I have come to take it’s message as a celebration of the soul. Maybe this makes no sense but it comforts me somewhat and perhaps it will comfort others.

**The Mourners Kaddish**

_Yeetgadal v’yeetkadash sh’meh raba’ balma’ deev’ra kheerootay v’yamlikh malkhootay b’khaiyay’khon oovyome’khon oovkhayai d’khol beyt yeesra’el b’agala’ ooveezman karee’v v’eemroo 'amen._

Glorified and sanctified be his great name in the world which is created according to his will. May he cause the reign of his kingdom in your lifetime and in your days, and in the life of all the house of Israel, speedily, yes, soon; and say, amen.

\*Y’hey shmey raba m’varakh l’olam oolomey olmaya’.

Yeetbarakh v’yeeshtabakh v’yeetpa’ar v’yeetromam, v’yeetnasey v’yeethadar, v’yeet’aleh v’yeethalal sh’mey d’kudsha b’rikh hoo’, l’eyla’ leyla’ meen kol beerkhata’ v’sheerata’, tooshb’khata’ v’nekhemata’ da’ameeran b’alma’ v’eemroo 'amen.\*

May his great name be blessed forever and forever eternally.

Blessed and praised, glorified and exalted, extolled and honored, adored and lauded be the name of the Holy One, blessed be he, who is high above, far above all blessings and hymns and praises and consolations which are spoken in the world, and say, amen.

_Y’hey sh’lama’ rab’ meen sh’maya’, v’khayeem aleynoo v’al kol yeesra’el v’eemroo 'amen._

May there be great peace from heaven and life for us and for all Israel and say, amen.

_Osey shalom beemromav, hoo’ yaaseh shalom aleynoo v’al kol yeesrael, v’eemroo 'amen._

He who makes peace in the heavenly realms, may he make peace for us and for all Israel, and say, amen.

**The English Translation**

Glorified and sanctified be God’s great name throughout the world which He has created according to His will. May He establish His kingdom in your lifetime and during your days, and within the life of the entire House of Israel, speedily and soon; and say, Amen.

May His great name be blessed forever and to all eternity.

Blessed and praised, glorified and exalted, extolled and honored, adored and lauded be the name of the Holy One, blessed be He, beyond all the blessings and hymns, praises and consolations that are ever spoken in the world; and say, Amen.

May there be abundant peace from heaven, and life, for us  
and for all Israel; and say, Amen.

## He who creates peace in His celestial heights, may He create peace for us and for all Israel; and say, Amen.

**The Meaning of Kaddish**  
there is no reference, no word even, about death in the prayer

The theme of Kaddish is, rather, the Greatness of God, who conducts the entire universe, and especially his most favored creature, each individual human being, with careful supervision. In this prayer, we also pray for peace - from apparently the only One Who can guarantee it - peace between nations, peace between individuals, and peace of mind.

Paradoxically, this is, in fact, the only true comfort in the case of the loss of a loved one. That is, to be able to view the passing of the beloved individual from the perspective that that person’s soul was gathered in, so to speak, by the One Who had provided it in the first place.☹

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**Author:** ![brachyrhynchos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brachyrhynchos/32/376_2.png) [@brachyrhynchos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brachyrhynchos)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-have-lost-a-friend/139658/100 "2002-12-01T05:19:51Z")

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I am so sorry, so very sorry.

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