# We love quote quotes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [April 2, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472 "2007-04-02T21:03:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/1 "2007-04-02T21:03:54Z")

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> [@First](#):
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> I
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> > [@Second](#):
> >
> > want
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> > [@Third](#):
> >
> > this box inside the second box.
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> > [@Fourth](#):
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> > and this box inside the third box.

Is there a way to do that?

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/2 "2007-04-02T21:11:24Z")

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> [@First](#):
>
> I
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> > [@Second](#):
> >
> > want
> > 
> > > [@third](#):
> > >
> > > this box inside the second box.
> > > 
> > > > [@fourth](#):
> > > >
> > > > and this box inside the third box.

Is there a way to do what? Nested boxes?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/3 "2007-04-02T21:21:50Z")

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I went all the way up to 18 before I stopped trying, and vBulletin was still happily nesting it correctly. Being a responsible citizen, I’m not going to post it though because it made the page look all yucky.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/4 "2007-04-02T21:30:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Arnold Winkelried]  
I went all the way up to 18 before I stopped trying, and vBulletin was still happily nesting it correctly. Being a responsible citizen, I’m not going to post it though because it made the page look all yucky.  
[/QUOTE]

Nesting instinct? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/5 "2007-04-02T21:32:26Z")

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I you’re having trouble with the coding, it’s probably because you are an empty nester.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/6 "2007-04-03T03:49:09Z")

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{quote=Originally Posted by First}  
I  
{quote= Second}  
want  
{Quote=Third}  
this box inside the second box.  
{Quote=Fourth}  
and this box inside the third box.{/quote}{/quote}{/quote}{/quote}

Changing the {} to gives you:

> [@Originally Posted by First](#):
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> I
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> > [@Second](#):
> >
> > want
> > 
> > [Quote=Third]
> > 
> > this box inside the second box.
> > 
> > [Quote=Fourth]
> > 
> > and this box inside the third box.

[/quote]

[/quote]

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/7 "2007-04-03T07:33:56Z")

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On a previous version of the board, the reply button used to generate nested quotes if you were responding to a post containing a quote (or indeed another set of nested quotes). It’s either turned off or absent in the current version and I miss it.

I miss it because it makes some replies (those that are replies to replies, or comments upon replies) harder to understand, having often stripped the context.

Of course it can still be done manually, but it’s a pain. I expect it’s a bandwidth or server load issue, is it?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/8 "2007-04-03T07:42:00Z")

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My wholehearted agreement with **Mangetout**.

The search engine no longer seems to index stuff in quote boxes either, or at least is a little flaky in its results. Could the two things be connected?

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**Author:** ![Mbossa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@Mbossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mbossa)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/9 "2007-04-03T08:24:02Z")

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I’ve also noticed that quotes don’t show up in mouse-over previews. But spoilers _do_ show up. I sure hope someone got fired for that one!

They are also stripped from those post summary thingees returned in search results. Methinks a foul conspiracy is afoot…

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/10 "2007-04-03T14:20:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Rick]  
{quote=Originally Posted by First}  
I  
{quote= Second}  
want  
{Quote=Third}  
this box inside the second box.  
{Quote=Fourth}  
and this box inside the third box.{/quote}{/quote}{/quote}{/quote}

Changing the {} to gives you:  
[/QUOTE]  
Thank you, **Rick**!!! Doing a “Reply” on someone who’d performed this correctly never showed their code and I was curious (and frustrated) at how this was accomplished.

What **Mangetout** said.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/11 "2007-04-03T14:24:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Will Repair]  
Is there a way to do that?  
[/QUOTE]

Yes. It’s called vBulletin 3.6.4.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/12 "2007-04-03T21:27:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I’ve also noticed that quotes don’t show up in mouse-over previews. But spoilers do show up. I sure hope someone got fired for that one!

Nobody got fired over the spoilers showing up, I can tell you that much. Spoiler boxes (at least, the way we have them implemented here) aren’t a standard vBulletin feature. Creating a tag to change the background color within a box is a fairly straightforward procedure, which the Powers that Be here had the will and ability to do. But also changing the indexing in such a way that the contents of that box would not show on mouseover would require a more sophisticated reprogramming, beyond what anyone here is willing to attempt.

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/13 "2007-04-03T21:52:28Z")

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HOWEVER:

DO NOT NEST SPOILERS!!!  
:mad: :mad: :mad:

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/14 "2007-04-03T21:55:20Z")

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spoilerspoilerspoilerspoiler

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/15 "2007-04-03T22:19:58Z")

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**ouryL** :[spoiler]

> [@](#):
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> I think the problem is just when you put a quote box inside a spoiler box

[/spoiler]

> [@](#):
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> Spoilers inside quote boxes, however, work just fine.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/16 "2007-04-04T02:52:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Chronos]  
Nobody got fired over the spoilers showing up, I can tell you that much. Spoiler boxes (at least, the way we have them implemented here) aren’t a standard vBulletin feature. Creating a tag to change the background color within a box is a fairly straightforward procedure, which the Powers that Be here had the will and ability to do. But also changing the indexing in such a way that the contents of that box would not show on mouseover would require a more sophisticated reprogramming, beyond what anyone here is willing to attempt.  
[/QUOTE]  
Actually, it might not. A while back I did a few tests and found that you can select what comes up in the mouseovers by selective use of [. Anything between [and] (or just after [, if you don’t close brackets) won’t show up. However, any close brackets will remove the effect.

“For example, [ here’s a sentence.” would appear in a mouseover as just "For example, "

“Here’s [ yet \*another \* sentence.” would appear as “Here’s sentence”

I believe you could make spoilers not show up in a mouseover simply by adding in another [ after the first spoiler tag. Like so;

[ Luke is Darth Vader’s son!

Non-mouseover text starts at the beginning of the spoiler and ends with the end, since any close bracket stops the effect. All you need to do to make spoiler boxes non-mouseover-y is add one more character in the right place.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/17 "2007-04-04T02:54:44Z")

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And now i’ve [tested](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=415176) it, I can say it does work. So there’s your answer - stick a [ after the first spoiler tag, and you’re all set.

Edit: As long as you don’t use some other tag within the spoiler, of course. Then you’d need to add another [ just after it, too.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/18 "2007-04-04T13:29:48Z")

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[QUOTE=elmwood]  
Yes. It’s called vBulletin 3.6.4.  
[/QUOTE]

I’m assuming we’re talking about automatically nesting quotes when responding to someone who quoted someone else. I don’t remember vBulletin doing this for a long while, and vBulletin 3.6.4 doesn’t do this by default. Is there an option to enable nesting quotes that I haven’t seen?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/19 "2007-04-04T15:38:35Z")

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[QUOTE=ouryL]

spoilerspoilerspoilerspoiler

[/QUOTE]

MUSHROOM! MUSHROOM!

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-love-quote-quotes/398472/20 "2007-04-04T15:52:05Z")

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[spoiler]

> [@](#):
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> Quotes inside a spoiler are fine as long as you spoil the quoted text.

This is somewhat complicated coding, but with preview and the edit window, it shouldn’t be a problem.[/spoiler]

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