# We need a DNC 2012 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 5, 2012, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695 "2012-09-05T00:04:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/81 "2012-09-05T14:19:20Z")
> [@Oliveritaly](#): > > Can you (and maybe you can’t) drop the Zero+bama crap? It doesn’t help your argument and just comes across as childish. We’ve got it you don’t like the President but claiming you want to have a rational argument about his stance or on the economy or whatever and then using this ‘tactic’ just makes me, and I’m sure others, say “this person is not willing to have a serious discussion, he just wants to name call.” > > Really dude, it’s not giving your argument any ‘meaningful substance.” But it’s all he has to work with, so cut him some slack. Every time he posts another undecided votes for the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/82 "2012-09-05T14:20:14Z")
you are seriously arguing that the GOP’s economic policies have been successes? That’s a whoosh, right? ---
**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/83 "2012-09-05T14:25:59Z")
> [@moonshot925](#): > > After 3 years of 0bama policies the unemployment rate remains over 8% and economic growth remains tepid at best, despite historic economic spending (stimulus, cash for clunkers, un-ending unemployment extensions, home buyer credits, etc etc) and historic financial stimulus from the FED (QE1; QE2; “twists”; almost zero interest rates; ect.) > > 0bama’s economic policies have been empirical failures. In return for the massive increases to the national debt in a vain attempt to “stimulate” the economy, 3 years later GDP is still very weak (and projected to stay that way) and unemployment is still very high. You clearly don’t know what empirical means, and you should probably hold off on using it until you do. Hint: it has nothing to do with your feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/84 "2012-09-05T14:30:10Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Deval Patrick is killing it! And then Cory Booker limped up to the lectern and said, “Not so fast…” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/85 "2012-09-05T14:36:59Z")
> [@Oliveritaly](#): > > Can you (and maybe you can’t) drop the Zero+bama crap? It doesn’t help your argument and just comes across as childish. At least he hasn’t gone to the “Democrat Party” foolishness. Oh, wait: > [@moonshot925](#): > > The Democrat Party has turned into a freak show. ---
**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/86 "2012-09-05T14:40:59Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > At least he hasn’t gone to the “Democrat Party” foolishness. > > Oh, wait: Yeah that particular quote was … unhinged, to put it kindly … or a paranoid-racist crapfest to put it another way. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/87 "2012-09-05T14:48:08Z")
> [@moonshot925](#): > > After 3 years of 0bama policies the unemployment rate remains over 8% and economic growth remains tepid at best, despite historic economic spending (stimulus, cash for clunkers, un-ending unemployment extensions, home buyer credits, etc etc) and historic financial stimulus from the FED (QE1; QE2; “twists”; almost zero interest rates; ect.) > > 0bama’s economic policies have been empirical failures. In return for the massive increases to the national debt in a vain attempt to “stimulate” the economy, 3 years later GDP is still very weak (and projected to stay that way) and unemployment is still very high. Many of them are likely “Muslims, abortion fanatics, gays, lesbians, transsexuals, transvestites, occupiers, government unions, illegal aliens, communists, and more!”, so why would you give a shit? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/88 "2012-09-05T15:00:47Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Many of them are likely “Muslims, abortion fanatics, gays, lesbians, transsexuals, transvestites, occupiers, government unions, illegal aliens, communists, and more!”, so why would you give a shit? Y’know, freaks. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/89 "2012-09-05T15:04:38Z")
> [@Oliveritaly](#): > > Yeah that particular quote was … unhinged, to put it kindly … or a paranoid-racist crapfest to put it another way. I like the word “unhinged”. I have just noticed it being used more commonly recently, but it has a nice sting. More sharp than just calling someone crazy. So, after having a few friends send me links to the speakers at the convention, I have decided to break my rule for this year and watch the rest of the convention. I hope I haven’t missed all the good parts in real time. I already missed Eastwood at the Republican Convention and had to watch it after the fact. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/90 "2012-09-05T15:08:26Z")
I think it’s been going fantastic. I felt bad for poor Martin O’Malley(who I’ll always picture as Carcetti from The Wire), who gave a terrific speech no one will remember because he was stuck between Deval Patrick and Michelle Obama. On a more shallow note, I thought Michelle’s dress looked fantastic and she made an excellent argument in favor of the importance of the Second Amendment. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/91 "2012-09-05T15:30:52Z")
> [@moonshot925](#): > > The Democrat Party has turned into a freak show. > > Muslims, abortion fanatics, gays, lesbians, transsexuals, transvestites, occupiers, government unions, illegal aliens, communists, and more! I previously thought you were a Republican operative (either on the payroll or a dedicated amateur wannabe) because every post you make consists of regurgitated right-wing talking points, but now I’m wondering if you’re actually just some kind of bot-- and not a particularly complex one. ---
**Author:** ![Abortion\_Fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@Abortion\_Fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abortion_Fanatic)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/92 "2012-09-05T15:32:55Z")
> [@moonshot925](#): > > The Democrat Party has turned into a freak show. > > Muslims, abortion fanatics, gays, lesbians, transsexuals, transvestites, occupiers, government unions, illegal aliens, communists, and more! Dollface, I wanted you to know I loved your comment so much I took my name from it. It was that or name myself after you, but Obvious Troll is Obvious didn’t have the same ring to it. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/93 "2012-09-05T15:44:37Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > … Every time he posts another undecided votes for the Democrats. Maybe he’s Democratic operative! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/94 "2012-09-05T15:54:31Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > There are plenty of people here who’s opinions have actual value, and I’ll leave to them tell me me I’m out of line, if such be the case. And these people – do they run the gamut from conservative to liberal? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/95 "2012-09-05T16:18:54Z")
Ooh, ooh, we haven’t had enough threads hijacked into a discussion about whether liberals are hypocrites who just want an echo-chamber. Can we hijack this thread into that discussion, too? Seriously, folks. This thread should be about what its title is about. Can we focus on that, not on whatever lame hijacks are thrown up instead? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/96 "2012-09-05T16:19:13Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And these people – do they run the gamut from conservative to liberal? If that’s where they started and ended up, sure! ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/97 "2012-09-05T16:56:03Z")
Well I didn’t see the speeches live but I watched them afterwards. While I was duly impressed by the First Lady, I was also wowed by the Keynote Speaker, the San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro. That guy has a bright future ahead of him. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/98 "2012-09-05T17:29:25Z")
I just watched Michelle Obama’s speech. Great speech, wonderfully delivered. The contrasts with the Romney story were strong. I also loved that Mrs. Obama was introduced by a military mom. As recently as 4 years ago the Republicans worshiped all things military, but in 2012 they hardly mention the military, or foreign policy, or the war. What really struck me about Michelle’s speech was how pro-American dream it was. If one of her goals was to counter the BS that Barack is secretly anti-American then Michelle hit the World Series winning Grand Slam home run. With a small number of edits the same speech could have been given by Ann Romney - that’s how pro-American ideals that speech was. The problem for the Republicans is that the Dems have A players bringing their A+ game, and the Red Team does not. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/99 "2012-09-05T17:52:00Z")
I saw this morning that there is a faction trying to draft Betty White to speak at the convention to counter the notion that all seniors are dithering gasbags. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-a-dnc-2012-thread/633695/100 "2012-09-05T17:57:16Z")
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