# "We need conservatives" why? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 29, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524 "2010-07-29T23:44:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/21 "2010-07-30T00:36:03Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > You’re a Republican? Some of us have _reasons_ to hate. Like evil. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/22 "2010-07-30T00:39:12Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > How soon conservatives forget who whumped Hitler and Tojo while they were sniveling about isolationism. John Wayne whipped Tojo’s ass. Everybody knows that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/23 "2010-07-30T00:41:56Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > To keep people like you busy asking silly questions on message boards instead of doing something really destructive. LOL. You have 29,000 posts, I’m the activist. I’ve registered the disenfranchised, I’ve marched on washington, I’ve taken direct action. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/24 "2010-07-30T00:41:56Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > You’re a Republican? > > Some of us have _reasons_ to hate. Like evil. You’re evil? > [@](#): > > LOL. You have 29,000 posts, I’m the activist. I’ve registered the disenfranchised, I’ve marched on washington, I’ve taken direct action. Marched on Washington, have you? Do let me know when you capture it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/25 "2010-07-30T00:43:09Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Teabaggers and the modern American version of conservatives are not needed at all. We do need conservatives, but most mainstream elected Democrats are conservative to moderate. These idiots filibustering everything are no more conservatives than than Democratic Senators are necessarily liberals. There are some, but not a working plurality. We need both, but both are readily available in the Democratic Party. > > Why do we need real conservatives? So that every idea for reform from liberals does not get enacted. Civilizations require some stability, and constant change of the social foundations will kill stability. At least someone has a brain. ---
**Author:** ![kingbighair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kingbighair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingbighair)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/26 "2010-07-30T00:43:52Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > > [@kingbighair](#): > > > > Because not every liberal idea is always correct and absolute power corrupts absolutely. > > Is rent expensive in cliche world? Umm, I’m probably more liberal than you are, big guy. Excuse me for using cliches, but give me a break if you think a single party ruling forever would not have catastrophic corruption problems. I think the current mainstream conservatives (GOP leadership) are childish, vacuous, soulless cretins, but that does not mean my side is always correct on every issue. Christ, the partisanship on this board is astounding. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/27 "2010-07-30T00:44:39Z")
> [@kingbighair](#): > > Because not every liberal idea is always correct and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Name one issue that conservatives have ever been right about. I’ll wait. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/28 "2010-07-30T00:49:35Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > > [@kingbighair](#): > > > > Because not every liberal idea is always correct and absolute power corrupts absolutely. > > Name one issue that conservatives have ever been right about. I’ll wait. Market economies? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/29 "2010-07-30T00:51:46Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Well we don’t really need conservatives or liberals. The planet could even do without moderates for that matter. The thing is we’re all here. You may not like the conservatives but this country is still mostly a democracy. Everyone gets their vote and their say. > > Saying they’re poo poo heads isn’t constructive or meaningful. Debating their value isn’t really meaningful either. > > They are here, we vote on stuff. Convince them to vote your way if you can’t do that convince enough people other then them your way is better to overcome their numbers. Bullshit. Progressives are the ones who believe in PROGRESS. See, it’s right there in the name. If it were up to conservatives we’d all still be living in caves eating mammoth. Progressives are the ones trying to lift humanityu out of the cesspit of hate and superstition into a more evolved state. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/30 "2010-07-30T00:52:13Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > If you are a republican in 2010, it means you hate people different from you > > You’re a Republican? 😃 good one Sam. I was thinking something along those lines when I read the OP. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/31 "2010-07-30T00:56:13Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > [@The\_Facts](#): > > > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > > > You’re a Republican? > > > > Some of us have _reasons_ to hate. Like evil. > > You’re evil? > > > [@](#): > > > > LOL. You have 29,000 posts, I’m the activist. I’ve registered the disenfranchised, I’ve marched on washington, I’ve taken direct action. > > Marched on Washington, have you? Do let me know when you capture it. Duh. “Hating” evil is good hate. Do you not hate Nazis? I do. And I did capture Washington in November 2008. We are just in the process of wiping out the resistance. Like Iraq, sometimes that takes a while. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/32 "2010-07-30T00:57:15Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He licks his own balls daily. Don’t we all? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/33 "2010-07-30T00:57:18Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > Progressives are the ones trying to lift humanityu out of the cesspit of hate and superstition into a more evolved state. Humanity U? Never heard of them. And they ain’t getting into the SEC, which is clearly the most evolved state of college football, which will be starting in a little over a month. But we aren’t going to let let liberals or yankees watch. It’s a rider we’ve attached to the “We love puppies and we want to spend even more money we don’t have” law some dippy hippy is sure to introduce. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/34 "2010-07-30T00:58:06Z")
BTW … I note we still have no arguments in response to the question. No answers? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/35 "2010-07-30T00:58:48Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > Bullshit. Progressives are the ones who believe in PROGRESS. See, it’s right there in the name. If it were up to conservatives we’d all still be living in caves eating mammoth. Progressives are the ones trying to lift humanityu out of the cesspit of hate and superstition into a more evolved state. Mmmmm. Mammoth bacon! ---
**Author:** ![GHO57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df788c/32.png) [@GHO57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GHO57)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/36 "2010-07-30T00:59:58Z")
> [@kingbighair](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > > [@kingbighair](#): > > > > > > Because not every liberal idea is always correct and absolute power corrupts absolutely. > > > > Is rent expensive in cliche world? > > Umm, I’m probably more liberal than you are, big guy. More liberal than thou? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/37 "2010-07-30T01:00:42Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > And I did capture Washington in November 2008. We are just in the process of wiping out the resistance. Like Iraq, sometimes that takes a while. How very **progressive** of you. _Meet the new Boss. Same as the Old Boss…_ ---
**Author:** ![kingbighair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@kingbighair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingbighair)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/38 "2010-07-30T01:02:04Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > > [@kingbighair](#): > > > > Because not every liberal idea is always correct and absolute power corrupts absolutely. > > Name one issue that conservatives have ever been right about. I’ll wait. Not overextending America’s financial obligations. While I do not think we are at a level of great worry (and advocate for more stimulus spending), there is a limit to what a nation can spend before it runs into major problems. While I think the GOP yells about the deficit mainly for political reasons, they are correct that there is a limit. And this limit is probably lower than what most liberals think. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/39 "2010-07-30T01:02:31Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > Duh. “Hating” evil is good hate. Do you not hate Nazis? I do. Sure I do. However, last I checked, most conservatives weren’t flying swastikas. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524/40 "2010-07-30T01:11:47Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > BTW … I note we still have no arguments in response to the question. No answers? Respond to what essentially is a rant and not a sincere call for debate? What’s the point? You have made it perfectly clear that your mind is closed on this subject. Enjoy your thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-conservatives-why/548524.md?page=3)