OK, I’ll bite.
Conservatives are right on Affirmative Action and Liberals are wrong. Each person should be treated as an individual, equal before the law. No preferential treatment by the law for anyone.
Per the OP… Don’t sell me shit like “some people have a principled stand for discriminating against people based on race” or some theoretical shit.
No.
Look under that Mr. Rogers sweater…
Good luck with that one.
Oh, well then, you’re absolutely right! Thank you for showing me the error of my ways.
I, for one, feel that my posts show I have given the OP’s topic all of the thoughtful consideration it deserves.
My mind is open. Give me an argument. What is the value of conservatives? What do they bring?
Progressives are the ones still fighting in Afghanistan. Still holding prisoners in Gitmo.
You have to separate the bullshit of politics from the philosophies. There’s nothing evil about conservatives being concerned about our growing deficit and other conservative concerns. One of the brilliant aspects of our founding fathers vision is to establish a representative government of checks and balances that allows good people to find solutions and direction together providing a balance through compromise. We need conservatives for balance in the exchange of ideas and the quest for solutions.
The problem now is that the business of politics and the games of perception involved dominate our government. Too many politicians on both sides of the aisle are bought and paid for by interests other than those of the people they are supposed to represent.
What we need are more elected officials who have integrity. What we need are more citizens who are not sucked into the media BS.
Eugenics
I guess you are a bit behind the times in that regard, though.
No conservatives=sensible tax policies on the rich=no debt.
In general, it never hurts a person to have their beliefs and/or their way of thinking challenged. It should lead to better thinking and to a better understanding of their beliefs.
It should also lead to a better understanding of their opponents beliefs and ways of thinking, which can only help the goal of [del]crushing their enemies, seeing them fall at their feet – taking their horses and goods and hearing the lamentation of their women [/del] <ahem> sorry defeating them in the market of political debate.
I’m shy of attempting to apply this axiom to “conservative” and “liberal”. It’s far more general than that. It would behoove all politically active humans to remember that their political opponents are also–almost always–supporting what they honestly believe to be best. Demonizing such an opponent is dehumanizing them, “They are not part of the real people,” and, as such, is counter-productive, malicious, and ignorant.
Uh, no. Delays in cleaning up the massive shitfuck that was the Bush regime don’t count as progressive policies.
Wait, what? 
I just love the way conservatives fought for equality before AA.
Rather than blame liberals blame the companies that discriminated for decades and then panicked and overcompensated in their scramble to avoid lawsuits.
I already told you that. Without guys like me, guys like you would be working in the salt mines of the new overlord. Ya see, the world is not now, never has been, and ain’t never gonna be some hippie paradise. TANSTAAFL always applies.
Bush didn’t escalate Afghanistan. That was Obama’s policy and he was still defending it today. I voted for him and I’m still glad I did, but I completely disagree with his policy there.
IMO his decisions there were either political, financial or both rather than about security.
Afghanistan aside, holding people without trial isn’t a “delay”, whether or not you put them there.
I’m uncertain where in this thread you’ve demonstrated that conservatives supported child labor laws, the 40 hour work week, and the OSHA, etc.
I have no idea what this means. AA is anti-discrimination. It is about creating a level playing field. And that is a progressive idea.
What is your value? What do you bring, aside from hatred?
You seem to be confusing labels with actions. I may very well think that at least some self-described conservatives (Rush Limbaugh) are a cancer on society, but that is because I am aware of specific actions by Mr. Limbaugh that make him an odious creep, not that his mere self-description as a conservative makes him so.
No one actually has to justify the existence of conservatives to you, you know. What difference does your opinion make, exactly? If what you want to do is merely preach hatred, have at it and we’ll see how things go. If what you want is to convince others that your hatred is justified, you’ll need to work a bit harder.
Lawyers?