# We need some new leadership **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 23, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471 "2004-07-23T03:49:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hiding\_Wasp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@Hiding\_Wasp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiding_Wasp)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/1 "2004-07-23T03:49:20Z")
Let me tell you that we really need a new president. This King George bull shit is getting old. We don’t need some leader telling lies to get the public to like him. The real problem is if he gets reelected again. Our country will be in a real state of poverty. If he wins you can almost guarantee his brother running for president. We will be screwed if Bush wins this election. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/2 "2004-07-23T04:58:24Z")
Sweetie pie…I totally agree with you. So do a lot of other folks around here. Try Great Debates. There are usually 153 threads over there about how much of a bastard Bush is…actually those threads make their way into almost every forum it seems. I suppose I could be a smartass and link to a shit load of them, but I don’t feel like it. Someone will be around to do it soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/3 "2004-07-23T12:14:41Z")
Don’t welcome **Wasp** too soon. The buzz is that political “shills” working paid for both sides often cruise BBS spreading the word for their candidates. And every single thing this person has posted has been about the election. I wonder about **Hiding Wasp**'s motives for being here. :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: For the record, I support Kerry. ---
**Author:** ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/4 "2004-07-23T12:44:16Z")
_snort_ well, if he is getting paid, you think that he could try a bit harder…and look at some of the 19281923 threads already open on this exact subject. Ah, I think you may be right, **Bosda** …it does seem suspicious. :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/5 "2004-07-23T13:50:54Z")
Are you guys nuts? Kerry is paying **Hidingwasp**? Tell me I haven’t had my whooshflakes for breakfast yet. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/6 "2004-07-23T14:02:19Z")
> [@Hiding Wasp](#): > > We will be screwed if Bush wins this election. Is this kinda like a chicken in every pot kinda deal? And also, who would be doing the screwing? If it’s Cheney, no way. But if its. like, Halle Berry or someone, whoa. I am totally in. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/7 "2004-07-23T14:08:28Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Are you guys nuts? Kerry is paying **Hidingwasp**? > > Tell me I haven’t had my whooshflakes for breakfast yet. Whooshflakes! They’re what’s for breakfast! Now with :smack: flavor crystals! ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/8 "2004-07-23T14:12:31Z")
> [@](#): > > The buzz is that political “shills” working paid for both sides often cruise BBS spreading the word for their candidates. I’m not sure whether this is true, although I wouldn’t doubt it. And I’m not sure whether the charge, levelled against **Hiding Wasp** was meant seriously or in jest (this is, after all, the Pit.) However, **Hiding Wasp** has several posts, and while some of them represent the same political view as the OP here, others are not related to politics at all. So, assuming the charge of “shill” was meant seriously, I don’t think it’s valid. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/9 "2004-07-23T15:55:40Z")
> [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > I’m not sure whether this is true, although I wouldn’t doubt it. And I’m not sure whether the charge, levelled against **Hiding Wasp** was meant seriously or in jest (this is, after all, the Pit.) However, **Hiding Wasp** has several posts, and while some of them represent the same political view as the OP here, others are not related to politics at all. So, assuming the charge of “shill” was meant seriously, I don’t think it’s valid. Perhaps my remarks _were_ a little hasty. :o ---
**Author:** ![The\_Llama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@The\_Llama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Llama)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/10 "2004-07-23T16:01:27Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > Is this kinda like a chicken in every pot kinda deal? And also, who would be doing the screwing? If it’s Cheney, no way. But if its. like, Halle Berry or someone, whoa. I am totally in. Yeah, I’d put my chicken in _her_ pot any day! Halle Berry for President!!! ---
**Author:** ![Hiding\_Wasp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@Hiding\_Wasp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiding_Wasp)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/11 "2004-07-23T17:46:31Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Are you guys nuts? Kerry is paying **Hidingwasp**? > > Tell me I haven’t had my whooshflakes for breakfast yet. I don’t know what you have been eating ,but I sure as hell ain’t getting paid by Kerry. I just want to support him to my fullest potential. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/12 "2004-07-23T18:00:15Z")
> [@Hiding Wasp](#): > > Let me tell you that we really need a new president. This King George bull shit is getting old. We don’t need some leader telling lies to get the public to like him. The real problem is if he gets reelected again. Our country will be in a real state of poverty. If he wins you can almost guarantee his brother running for president. We will be screwed if Bush wins this election. What do you think? Since you ask, I completly disagree. I will be voting for Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/13 "2004-07-23T18:03:36Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I will be voting for Bush. For Og’s sake, _why_? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/14 "2004-07-23T18:21:45Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > For Og’s sake, _why_? :eek: I’m voting for Bush because of the idiocy exhibited by bashers like the OP. I figure if a person so stupid dislikes Bush, it must be smart to like him. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/15 "2004-07-23T18:24:28Z")
But Bush is stupid himself. A real chimp. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/16 "2004-07-23T18:27:58Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > For Og’s sake, _why_? :eek: I could tell you, but in the end the result would be the same. No one’s mind would be changed, it wastes bandwith, and puts a strain on the hamsters. I normally avoid threads like these (in fact, I’m getting a bad taste in my mouth over SDMB in general lately) but I’m in a kick-ass kind of mood today. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/17 "2004-07-23T18:36:47Z")
> [@Hiding Wasp](#): > > The real problem is if he gets reelected again. Not to worry-- he can only be reelected once, so he won’t be reelected again. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/18 "2004-07-23T18:38:54Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > But Bush is stupid himself. A real chimp. That’s an egregious insult to chimps, pal! I know some chimps. Chimps are pretty damn smart. George bush is no chimp! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/19 "2004-07-23T18:50:23Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Not to worry-- he can only be reelected once, so he won’t be reelected again. 🆒 But since he wasn’t really elected the first time… ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471/20 "2004-07-23T18:53:26Z")
Good I can start compiling my list of people to thank when the apocalypse goes down. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-some-new-leadership/256471.md?page=2)