# We need to call out inherent racism in explicit terms **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083 "2014-12-13T01:40:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/41 "2014-12-13T04:02:50Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > I just looked at your thread history. You work in IT and post about subjects near and dear to the white old nerd heart. I can’t believe you actually think anybody here thinks you’re not white. > > And your accusation of racism reminds me of a certain bible verse about motes and beams, or some such. LOL Because no one but white people can be in IT or play games, right? You should really look up the word ‘irony’ sometime. As to what people think, I don’t give a flying fuck to be honest…nor do I give a flying fuck what YOU think. I asked you a question and you haven’t answered it yet, troll…why do your posts wreak of privilege and ignorance? ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/42 "2014-12-13T04:06:15Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > I just looked at your thread history. You work in IT and post about subjects near and dear to the white old nerd heart. I can’t believe you actually think anybody here thinks you’re not white. > > And your accusation of racism reminds me of a certain bible verse about motes and beams, or some such. LOL Yeah, 'cause niggers, they don’t go in for that tech jive! :rolleyes: (I don’t know anything about **XT** ’s skin color or racial/cultural heritage, but then, neither do you). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/43 "2014-12-13T04:18:08Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > I just looked at your thread history. You work in IT and post about subjects near and dear to the white old nerd heart. I can’t believe you actually think anybody here thinks you’re not white. Here’s an example of the need to call out explicit racism. The “white old nerd heart”? This thread is not going to go well for you, _amigo_. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/44 "2014-12-13T04:18:19Z")
I’m Canadian. Who am I supposed to be bigoted against? Is there a chart? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/45 "2014-12-13T04:26:15Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m Canadian. Who am I supposed to be bigoted against? Is there a chart? Depends: are you an Anglophone or a Francophone? ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/46 "2014-12-13T04:29:44Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m Canadian. Who am I supposed to be bigoted against? Is there a chart? Either people living in Ontario or Alberta depending on your locale. Of course we can all agree on Newfies. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/47 "2014-12-13T04:41:48Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > People could google before challenging. The request for a cite on THIS topic (and some related ones), not all topics, prior to a google search is evidence of at least a slightly racist bias, even if it’s unconscious. > > And my whole point is that the nature of facebook, plus the internet in general these days, encourages bubbles. People are not sufficiently aware of this, IMHO. I’d better let my black friends on facebook (around 20% of my friends list) know that they’re all racists for not knowing about this one issue and posting it! ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/48 "2014-12-13T04:59:59Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > I just looked at your thread history. You work in IT and post about subjects near and dear to the white old nerd heart. I can’t believe you actually think anybody here thinks you’re not white. > > And your accusation of racism reminds me of a certain bible verse about motes and beams, or some such. LOL Let me get this straight. According to you XT is a white racist. Anyone who didn’t read a study linked to on Facebook is a racist. Everyone who works in IT is white. Everyone who plays computer games is white. Is that right? If so, not only are you a fucktard of the highest order, you are doing your ‘side’ of the debate no favors. Racism still exists which sucks. However, knee jerk accusations of racism hurt the cause. It does not help, hell, in fact it plays into actual racists hands because it makes the argument ‘Minorities blame everything on racism’ seem plausible. Slee ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/49 "2014-12-13T05:19:15Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [Interesting experiment showing how easy it is for people (both white and black) to mistakenly “see” a black person as armed and dangerous](http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/26/us/ferguson-racism-or-racial-bias/) Jesus holy fuck. What can be done about this? Are we just forever fucked? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/50 "2014-12-13T05:29:59Z")
So XT’s original point that calling everything racist dilutes actual calls of racism is illustrated immediately. If you don’t Google certain topics you are also a racist. Nope - that way lies crazy town. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/51 "2014-12-13T06:25:55Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > I just looked at your thread history. You work in IT and post about subjects near and dear to the white old nerd heart. I can’t believe you actually think anybody here thinks you’re not white. Clearly, your research skills are pretty limited. XT has been here for years, and many of us can vouch that he is Hispanic: second-generation immigrant, I think. FYI, I’m profoundly white; you probably couldn’t have guessed, since I don’t talk about computers. (I am a fan of mayonnaise, country music, and lynchings, of course). Since this is a diverse and inclusive site, we’re glad to have you here on behalf of the Dumbshit-American community. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/52 "2014-12-13T07:19:41Z")
I agree with the OP. If you point out that people are prejudiced, people will accuse you of being the real bigot. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/53 "2014-12-13T11:01:34Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > I agree with the OP. > > If you point out that people are prejudiced, people will accuse you of being the real bigot. 😕 Only those ashamed of their own bigotry are bothering to argue, actually. The worst ones aren’t even responding, because they are totally comfortable with their own bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/54 "2014-12-13T11:18:43Z")
So if you call someone a bigot, and they argue, they’re bigots. If you call someone a bigot, and they don’t argue, they’re also bigots. Conclusion: anyone you call a bigot, is a bigot. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/55 "2014-12-13T12:04:22Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > So if you call someone a bigot, and they argue, they’re bigots. > If you call someone a bigot, and they don’t argue, they’re also bigots. > Conclusion: anyone you call a bigot, is a bigot. The painkillers study showed that even black healthcare providers believed that black people suffer less pain. So yes, everyone is bigoted in one way or another, pretty much. What of it? There are degrees of bigotry. Big shock. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/56 "2014-12-13T12:38:40Z")
You’ve used the word “bigot”. That proves beyond all possible doubt that you’re a bigot. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/57 "2014-12-13T12:41:50Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > You’ve used the word “bigot”. That proves beyond all possible doubt that you’re a bigot. Did you even read my previous post? It addresses this point exactly. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/58 "2014-12-13T13:10:12Z")
So are you claiming you’re not a bigot? ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/59 "2014-12-13T13:29:35Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > So are you claiming you’re not a bigot? You’re not good with the reading comprehension, are you? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083/60 "2014-12-13T13:41:59Z")
This could have been a good thread. I’m disappointed it’s been taken over by a loudmouth way in over his or her head. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-call-out-inherent-racism-in-explicit-terms/707083.md?page=4)