# We Need To Get Rid of Trust Levels

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907>\
**Category:** Site Feedback\
**Created:** [June 25, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907 "2020-06-25T03:08:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/21 "2020-06-25T18:39:36Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I seem to be a level 2 despite never having given any likes. Maybe that part got turned off?

How can you learn your own trust number?

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/22 "2020-06-25T18:50:09Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> How can you learn your own trust number?

Click your username to bring up your card. At the bottom left should be a square with a word in it.

TL1 = Basic  
TL2 = Member  
TL3 = Regular  
TL4 = Leader

You can also go to your profile, choose Summary, click the Expand button, and it’ll be listed there.

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**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/23 "2020-06-25T18:55:16Z")

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The fuck is a card?

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/24 "2020-06-25T18:55:49Z")

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> [@blindboyard](#):
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> The fuck is a card?&nbsp;

A miniature fucking profile.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/25 "2020-06-25T18:57:32Z")

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Click any avatar, you’ll find out.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/26 "2020-06-25T18:57:33Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Click your username to bring up your card.

> [@blindboyard](#):
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> The fuck is a card?

I’d recommend clicking on your username to find out! 😉

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**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/27 "2020-06-25T19:21:16Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Click any avatar, you’ll find out.

Not the one in the top corner.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/28 "2020-06-25T19:44:05Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> > [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > How can you learn your own trust number?
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> Click your username to bring up your card. At the bottom left should be a square with a word in it.
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> TL1 = Basic  
> TL2 = Member  
> TL3 = Regular  
> TL4 = Leader
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> You can also go to your profile, choose Summary, click the Expand button, and it’ll be listed there.

Ah. I seem to be a “member”. (I see no number, but I do see the word.) Cool. I suspect everyone is trust level 2, since we don’t seem to be using the “likes” feature.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/29 "2020-06-26T02:36:24Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I need some help here, because I have no idea what the OP means.

See my OP. There’s a link to the “rulebook.”

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/30 "2020-06-26T16:57:51Z")

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I saw your link. My questions boiled down to “who cares, since most of those things are either automatic or turned off?”

I think you posted too early before a lot of your complaints were dealt with in the tweaks. I’m still not sure which, if any, of them are still applicable. Why don’t you point to the ones that are?

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/31 "2020-06-26T17:18:27Z")

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So basically we did get rid of trust levels.

Job done.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/32 "2020-06-26T17:21:43Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> So basically we did get rid of trust levels.
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> Job done.&nbsp;

Not really. There are still a few posters who made the migration and are stuck at TL1, and their use of the board is limited (no ignore list, for instance). New joins, likewise, won’t be able to advance beyond that.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/33 "2020-06-26T17:27:19Z")

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Job not done.

If you’re correct then that’s would create a two tier system so that needs to change. I’m dubious though that they would set things up like that. Hopefully it’s one of those teething things.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/34 "2020-06-26T17:28:42Z")

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Which users? I haven’t posted any likes yet I’m level 2

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/35 "2020-06-26T17:29:49Z")

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[This guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-our-blocked-user-lists-went-away/913049/4), for instance.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/36 "2020-06-26T19:07:34Z")

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Yeah, I think a hit-list item might be “make all posters level 2 immediately upon joining”. Or maybe after they’ve been here a week or something.

FWIW, I never gave or received any “likes” and seem to be level 2. So maybe there’s just a time limit or something. But you can definitely already get there without the likes. So maybe that hit list item HAS been accomplished.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/37 "2020-06-26T19:12:08Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> TL1 = Basic  
> TL2 = Member  
> TL3 = Regular  
> TL4 = Leader

There are more levels than that. But they’re secret so you have to pay big $$$ to learn about them.

Oh what the heck… here they are (sigh)

TL1 = Basic  
TL2 = Member  
TL3 = Regular  
TL4 = Leader  
TL5 = Operating Thetan  
TL6 = Cleared Theta Clear  
TL7 = Ell-Ron  
TL8 = See-Cil

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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/38 "2020-06-26T19:21:24Z")

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I’m currently serving 1,000 years in the See-Org.

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**Author:** ![Jebbilene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jebbilene/32/3414_2.png) [@Jebbilene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebbilene)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/39 "2020-06-27T00:37:13Z")

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Yes. I just want to read and lurk like I used to, but I miss my ignore list. Do I need to post stuff to get to level 2 or am I stuck forever?

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-need-to-get-rid-of-trust-levels/912907/40 "2020-06-27T00:51:15Z")

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> [@Jebbilene](#):
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> Yes. I just want to read and lurk like I used to, but I miss my ignore list. Do I need to post stuff to get to level 2 or am I stuck forever?&nbsp;

We don’t know what’s going on with that, yet, but you’ve only been here 4 days, and you have to have visited 15 days (not in a row) to become TL2.

My guess is that all core functions of the board will eventually be moved to TL1, and that anything higher than that won’t matter (not counting the TL4s, who are really baby moderators).

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