# We pit malicious GOP behavior!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869 "2015-09-28T20:15:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/81 "2016-12-19T01:48:47Z")

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**Clothahump** is special that way.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/82 "2016-12-19T01:55:17Z")

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He’s [breathtaking](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGQVYW9cMNE)

[SIZE=“1”]obligatory Seinfeld reference[/SIZE]

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/83 "2016-12-19T05:06:54Z")

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> [@MacCat](#):
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> Cite for what? A simple, clear and accurate statement?

There was nothing accurate about it in the slightest. I would like to see what he thinks the justification for bullshit statement like that is.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/84 "2016-12-19T06:39:10Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Cite?

You tell me, in what way is [the story I quoted](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/us/politics/north-carolina-governor-roy-cooper-republicans.html?_r=0) to bump this thread no indicative of maliciousness? “_We don’t trust a Democratic Governor to not fuck the state up, so we are going to hobble the office_”. Come on, man, what more evidence do you want?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/85 "2016-12-19T15:45:35Z")

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Clothy’s thought process (or rather the lack thereof) is at the root of what is wrong with the GOP.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/86 "2016-12-21T20:11:13Z")

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They aren’t wasting any time; they are planning to r[eintroduce a bill that legally protects anti-homosexual discrimination by businesses](http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/first-amendment-defense-act-would-be-devastating-lgbtq-americans-n698416). Not to mention anyone who has sex out of marriage.

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> FADA would prohibit the federal government from taking “discriminatory action” against any business or person that discriminates against LGBTQ people. The act distinctly aims to protect the right of all entities to refuse service to LGBTQ people based on two sets of beliefs: “(1) marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, or (2) sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage.”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/87 "2016-12-22T05:47:38Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> They aren’t wasting any time; they are planning to r[eintroduce a bill that legally protects anti-homosexual discrimination by businesses](http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/first-amendment-defense-act-would-be-devastating-lgbtq-americans-n698416). Not to mention anyone who has sex out of marriage.

Oh yeah. But when the people they are discriminating against start a boycott against them, they go nuts, crying that THEY are being picked on and discriminated against. I think most of us have had just about enough of the “Hobby Lobby types”.

Wanna be a bigoted jerk? Have at it. Have a blast. But don’t cry when your customers drop you like a bad habit.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/88 "2016-12-22T21:11:57Z")

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Not good enough, alas, as the Jim Crow era proved. Boycotting bigots doesn’t do the trick. Bigotry can actually be an advertising bonus. “Come to our cafe: no [xyz] here!” And, in some ugly parts of the country, business booms, while [xyz] are unable to dine out, or buy groceries, or stay in motels, or have business cards printed, etc.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/89 "2016-12-22T21:35:47Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Not good enough, alas, as the Jim Crow era proved. Boycotting bigots doesn’t do the trick. Bigotry can actually be an advertising bonus. “Come to our cafe: no [xyz] here!” And, in some ugly parts of the country, business booms, while [xyz] are unable to dine out, or buy groceries, or stay in motels, or have business cards printed, etc.

Yep, or they get massive donations like that pizza place that said it wouldn’t serve a gay wedding a few years back.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/02/indianas-memories-pizza-wouldnt-cater-gay-wedding-gets-40k-in-crowdfunding/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/02/indianas-memories-pizza-wouldnt-cater-gay-wedding-gets-40k-in-crowdfunding/)

Bigotry can be a real money maker.

Yikes, LA times reported over 800k raised.

> **[Fundraiser ends for pizzeria that won't cater gay weddings, raises $842K](https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nn-indiana-pizzeria-fundraiser-20150404-story.html)**
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> The fundraiser for owners of an Indiana pizzeria that became the target of widespread animosity after they said they wouldn't cater a same-sex wedding reception has come to an end after collecting more than $842,000.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/90 "2017-01-03T05:01:50Z")

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The Republioturds ran on a platform of “draining the swamp.” They’ve already announced what swamp is first to go — the Office of Congressional Ethics! This\*\* [del]is[/del]\*\* was an independent, non-partisan entity charged with reviewing allegations of misconduct against members of the House of Representatives and their staff. Since 2008 it has found much misconduct to investigate. (Ironically, at its creation Nancy Pelosi cited its purpose as “draining the swamp”!)

Well, that swamp has been drained. Or that hen-house has been turned over to the wolves, if you prefer a different metaphor. The Office hasn’t been completely destroyed, but its name is changed, “independent” and “non-partisan” are removed from its charter, and it will report directly to the GOP.

Maybe we can hope it will still be doing _half_ its job: investigating misconduct by Democratic Congressmen.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/91 "2017-02-27T04:34:02Z")

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I think this smacks of evil,

> [@"\[Ars](#):
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> ([FCC to halt rule that protects your private data from security breaches | Ars Technica](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/isps-wont-have-to-follow-new-rule-that-protects-your-data-from-theft/))"]The Federal Communications Commission plans to halt implementation of a privacy rule that requires ISPs to protect the security of its customers’ personal information…
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> The most well-known portion of the privacy order requires ISPs to get opt-in consent from consumers before sharing Web browsing data and other private information with advertisers and other third parties. The opt-in rule is supposed to take effect December 4, 2017, unless the FCC or Congress eliminates it before then.
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> Pai has said that ISPs shouldn’t face stricter rules than online providers like Google and Facebook, which are regulated separately by the Federal Trade Commission. Pai wants a “technology-neutral privacy framework for the online world” based on the FTC’s standards. According to today’s FCC statement, the data security rule “is not consistent with the FTC’s privacy standards.”

It seems to me that the rules for google or fb should _not_ be the same as for the company that handles _all your fucking traffic_.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/92 "2017-04-05T12:00:31Z")

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In 2011, Rick Scott, Republioturd Governor of Florida, signed a bill to mandate drug testing for government employees and welfare recipients, but it was overturned by a federal court. [However, the Florida legislature may make another attempt.](http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/politifact-florida-rick-scotts-broken-promise-on-drug-testing-welfare/2316721)

Why is this malicious? Rick `the Turd’ _ **Scott founded Solantic — a company in the business of administering drug tests.** _ He “divested” to become Governor … _ **but his wife retains a controlling interest in the company** _. :smack: Is the stupidity of the American voter sickening or what?

Recall that Scott was CEO of the health company Columbia/HCA, and left with hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and stock shortly before “Columbia/HCA pleaded guilty to 14 felonies and agreed to a $600+ million fine in the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history. Columbia/HCA admitted systematically overcharging the government by claiming marketing costs as reimbursable, by striking illegal deals with home care agencies, and by filing false data about use of hospital space. They also admitted fraudulently billing Medicare …”

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/93 "2017-04-05T15:51:29Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> I have been of the opinion that the US is in the end game of unfettered capitalism, which is an oligarchy that is nominally a democracy, but in which the elected leaders are the paid stooges of the wealthy and the voters have little or no say in what the government does. But if the Republicans attain complete power, we may go beyond that, right in to bozocracy … government by clowns.

you called it

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/94 "2017-04-05T17:36:55Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> In 2011, Rick Scott, Republioturd Governor of Florida, signed a bill to mandate drug testing for government employees and welfare recipients, but it was overturned by a federal court. [However, the Florida legislature may make another attempt.](http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/politifact-florida-rick-scotts-broken-promise-on-drug-testing-welfare/2316721)
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> Why is this malicious? Rick `the Turd’ _ **Scott founded Solantic — a company in the business of administering drug tests.** _ He “divested” to become Governor … _ **but his wife retains a controlling interest in the company** _. :smack: Is the stupidity of the American voter sickening or what?
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> Recall that Scott was CEO of the health company Columbia/HCA, and left with hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and stock shortly before “Columbia/HCA pleaded guilty to 14 felonies and agreed to a $600+ million fine in the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history. Columbia/HCA admitted systematically overcharging the government by claiming marketing costs as reimbursable, by striking illegal deals with home care agencies, and by filing false data about use of hospital space. They also admitted fraudulently billing Medicare …”

Scott’s wife has not held any interest in the company [since 2011](http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/gov-rick-scott-finalizes-deal-to-sell-his-holdings-in-urgent-care-chain/1163630), when Scott sold off the shares he had placed “in trust” for her.

Please don’t make me defend Scott again.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2017, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/95 "2017-04-23T12:18:03Z")

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[Tim Nolan, chairman of President Donald Trump’s campaign in Campbell County, Kentucky has been charged with human trafficking and unlawful transaction with a minor.](http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/04/21/former-district-judge-indicted-human-trafficking/100756290/)  
Nolan is an outspoken Tea-Party right-winger, and a former County District Judge. His daughter is Campbell County Circuit Court Clerk.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/96 "2017-04-24T18:40:04Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> …wul, if you’re going to talk about Rubio, Trump, and a variety of others I could think of, the poison never stops. Whatever happened to respectable Republicans who didn’t seem like they were trying to outscream each other on Jerry Springer?

They all died, years ago.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/97 "2017-10-14T05:45:44Z")

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Where’s the thread where right-wing scumbags defend their “ideas”? Are they sad that P.G. House didn’t get needled?

[Here’s a very old story](https://web.archive.org/web/20041011114457/http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/editorial/2840624) I re-stumbled on just now. (I’d mentioned it long before my SDMB days in an outraged email that showed up Gmail-searching for something completely different.)

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> Paul Gregory House was convicted of murdering a neighbor in 1985, before the era of DNA typing. The Tennessee jury that found him guilty was told semen found on the body of the neighbor, Carolyn Muncey, matched his blood type. The jury, citing the fact that Muncey had been raped, said House should be sentenced to death.
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> It’s hard to believe that the jurors would have come to that conclusion if they had known that the semen’s DNA matched that of Muncey’s husband, Hubert, not the defendant. A 15-judge U.S. Court of Appeals panel in Cincinnati that heard a request to reopen the case knew that. Yet the judges voted, 8-7, that House should neither be freed nor given a new trial. **They were not swayed by six witnesses implicating Hubert Muncey. Two said Muncey had told them he had killed his wife while he was drunk.**
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> That eight judges would condemn a man to be executed under these circumstances is shocking. _ **What’s worse is that the judges divided along partisan lines. The eight judges appointed by a Republican president voted to keep House on the road to the death penalty. Six judges appointed by a Democrat wanted to free him, and the seventh called for a new trial.** _ It’s hard to dismiss the thought that the Republicans voted as a show of support for capital punishment, not on the merits of the case.

[The story did have a happy ending](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_v._Bell) (if being mentally and physically damaged from more than 20 years of false imprisonment is a happy ending). In 2006, the Supreme Court ruled that the conviction was atrocious and granted a new trial. Two years later, never getting his retrial, Paul Gregory House was finally released, _ **having been incarcerated for more than 22 years on Tennessee’s death row.** _

Guess how the Supreme Court split on House v Bell? The four moderates, joined by Reagan-appointee Kennedy voted to grant House a retrial. Alito recused himself — he wasn’t on the court when the case was heard. _ **The three eligible scumbag Justices? Scaley the Reptile? Uncle Tom Thomas? J.R. the Scumbag Chief? They all wanted to kill an innocent man.** _

Some people pretend that Republicans are humans too; that they just have different views on sociopolitical details. Wrong. The entire GOP are utter Scum(\*); they embrace every Evil imaginable. An obviously innocent is on death row? Hooray!! Torture him for another 20 years, then give him the lethal injection.

Go to Hell, every single one of you Republicans.

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  - Susan Collins? Perhaps a decent human being. But until she stands up on the Senate floor, denounces her colleagues and switches parties, she can go to Hell too as far as I’m concerned.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/98 "2017-10-14T09:53:22Z")

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Repeated attempts to take health care away from \>20 million Americans certainly qualifies as malicious.

At first, their failure to re-authorize CHIP by the 9/30 deadline seemed just careless, but their subsequent lack of urgency to fix their mistake and renew it is callous at best, and the longer it goes on, the more one has to suspect their oversight is deliberate and therefore malicious.

Trump’s ongoing sabotage of the ACA is unquestionably malicious.

The combination of lack of Trump Administration urgency with respect to Puerto Rico, where one-third of the people on the island still don’t even have safe drinking water, combined with decisions to hide and downplay the real state of affairs there, not to mention Trump’s repeated blaming the island for its problems and saying we’re going to have to start _cutting back_ on helping Puerto Rico, has to be construed as malicious.

These are just evil people. When has a party so actively worked _against_ the interests of the American people?

Ex-judge Roy Moore having fought to keep “separate but equal” and the poll tax in the Alabama Constitution: that’s pretty evil too. The entire GOP can’t be tagged with that one, but I don’t see party leaders stepping up to denounce him for this track record, either.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/99 "2017-10-14T12:28:06Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> These are just evil people. When has a party so actively worked _against_ the interests of the American people?

The modern Republican party represents the Calvinistic part of America that has been with us since colonial times. In their view, some people are just born winners and born losers, and that’s just the way God wants it. Others of this ilk believe apply a type of social Darwinism that evolved during the 19th Century, with society’s ‘winners’ adapting while society’s losers should just accept their fate and die out. People who think in such a way tend to view society as a kind of jungle in which there are the living and the dead, predators and prey, completely ignoring the cooperative side of our evolutionary history (of course that’s easy to do when people allow themselves to cherry pick science and facts they wish to believe in). In short, Republican morality is based on doing what is best for the self and basically ignoring the needs of everyone else. The mouth of that river is a type of sociopathic capitalism, such as the kind that rewards winners like Bernie Madoff, Martin Shkreli, and Donald Trump for their wily ability to con people out of everything, and punishes their victims for being too stupid to trust them.

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Ex-judge Roy Moore having fought to keep “separate but equal” and the poll tax in the Alabama Constitution: that’s pretty evil too. **The entire GOP can’t be tagged with that one** , but I don’t see party leaders stepping up to denounce him for this track record, either.

Oh yes it can, and it should. The entire Republican party has for years normalized race-baiting extremists and made them welcome in their party. They did so because they knew their audience. They knew that whites have always had anxieties about people of color and immigrants competing with them for jobs and otherwise changing their society and they’ve used those anxieties to compete in - and win - elections.

As you say, nobody in the party stands up to them. The most bravery you will ever witness from a Republican is deciding not to run for reelection. Sorry, but that doesn’t count for much. If you want me to start having even just a touch of admiration for the occasional odd Republican, then someone - anyone - needs to start standing up to them in the Senate and in the House and loudly denouncing Trump and their own party in ways that are meaningful, or just admitting that their party is atrocious and becoming an independent. Like Bernie is to Democrats, they could caucus with the GOP but remain on the outs until they can kick out the fascists.

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**Author:** ![LongTimeLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@LongTimeLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LongTimeLurker)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-pit-malicious-gop-behavior/732869/100 "2017-10-15T15:40:59Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> R\<snip\>  
> These are just evil people. When has a party so actively worked _against_ the interests of the American people?\<snip\>

I don’t think I will ever understand this. People that I know and used to like are Trump fans and/or Republicans. Being a Republican used to have a goal that was, in their opinion, a better America. Now it is nothing but how much can they take away from the masses so that they can feed the already obscenely rich.

Our Democracy is controlled and paid for by a handful of Oligarchs. Our children are only being allowed to survive because the 1% don’t want to run out of cheap labor.

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