# We’re number three! (Toronto and slow traffic) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 11, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-re-number-three-toronto-and-slow-traffic/995967 "2024-01-11T17:30:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-re-number-three-toronto-and-slow-traffic/995967/1 "2024-01-11T17:30:06Z")
London is claimed to have the world’s slowest traffic, with Toronto following Dublin. If taking an average of half an hour to cover six miles is slow… How is traffic in your region? > **[Toronto traffic third slowest in world in 2023: Study](https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/toronto-traffic-third-slowest-in-world-in-2023-study)** > > While it comes as no surprise to Toronto-area motorists, the city has a world-class traffic headache, according to a new study. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-re-number-three-toronto-and-slow-traffic/995967/2 "2024-01-11T20:07:07Z")
Terrible. Always has been. The writers of **The X-Files** seemed to believe any two points inside the Capital Beltway were only 20 minutes apart. Hilarious. It can take longer than that just to get a mile up the road. ---
**Author:** ![Meurglys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Meurglys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meurglys)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-re-number-three-toronto-and-slow-traffic/995967/3 "2024-01-12T00:01:06Z")
Well, Edinburgh’s fifth in the UK, behind Manchester, Liverpool & Bristol (and London, obviously) The piece I read only covered this country, so I don’t know how good or bad that is on a world scale. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-re-number-three-toronto-and-slow-traffic/995967/4 "2024-01-12T00:23:35Z")
Not true–it fails to consider the traffic in the third world: > The study says it typically took 29 minutes for drivers to cover 10 kilometres in Toronto last year. Contrast this with Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh : > The distance from airport to hotel was **eight and a half miles**. The trip had taken **two and a half hours**. We wheeled into the hotel’s driveway and the cabby spun around to offer his verdict. **“Some traffic,” he said. “Not so bad.** ” Doing the calculations this is 150 minutes to go 13.7 kilometres or a rate of 109 minutes for 10 kilometres --about 3.8 times as long as the Toronto numbers. Of course this was only trip, but the author says the traffic there is very, very bad: **The Bangladeshi Traffic Jam That Never Ends** [https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/t-magazine/travel/dhaka-bangladesh-traffic.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/t-magazine/travel/dhaka-bangladesh-traffic.html) ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-re-number-three-toronto-and-slow-traffic/995967/5 "2024-01-12T00:28:32Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > London is claimed to have the world’s slowest traffic, with Toronto following Dublin. It would bother me more I I didn’t work from home full time now. I used to drive from midtown Toronto to near the airport. Backstreets were faster than the 401 except at very off hours. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-re-number-three-toronto-and-slow-traffic/995967/6 "2024-01-12T00:48:09Z")
The article quotes a survey from TomTom. Presumably this service is not popular in every country.