# We should give Israel to the Mormons **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458 "2012-11-19T01:02:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/41 "2012-11-19T13:39:52Z")
Well the Mormons would keep it clean at least. But you wouldn’t be able to get a decent cup of coffee. ---
**Author:** ![ed\_anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@ed\_anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed_anger)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/42 "2012-11-19T13:55:46Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > Out of curiosity, would you also support a mass immigration of Palestinians to any state, since it would solve the problem equally well? Since the Arabs talk about a Pan-Arab homeland as well, you’d think they’d have done this already. > [@Smapti](#): > > In which case, discussing where the Jewish homeland should be is about 65 years out of date, innit? Fair enough. > [@Noone\_Special](#): > > However, if you start telling me you want me out of Tel Aviv, the city I was practically born in and the city I have lived in nearly all of my almost 50 years, I will tell you exactly where you can shove that idea. I don’t think you “get” this thread. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/43 "2012-11-19T14:04:09Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Or the Hindus. Or the Buddhists. Or the Zoroastrians. > > Anyone but who’s living there now. If the Jews & the Palestinians can’t learn to share, NEITHER of them should get to keep it. > > Who agrees with me? Here’s an idea, let’s propose a partition plan that creates a Jewish State and an Arab State and see which side accepts it and which side rejects it and goes to war to wipe the other side out. Then we support the side which accepted it the plan. Or on the other hand, we could just conclude that it’s two groups of people who “can’t get along” without looking closer to see what exactly the problem is. ---
**Author:** ![dimmy\_derko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/43a26b/32.png) [@dimmy\_derko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dimmy_derko)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/44 "2012-11-19T14:13:45Z")
For such a bunch of spiritually obsessed people, they’re mighty materialistic when it comes to deciding what they need to exist with dignity. While seemingly gleefully denying the fullfilment of the similarly materialistic desires of their [del]prisoner[/del]Palestinian neighbours. Having never grown up in an environment where it was nigh on compulsory to hate a specific group of people and characterise them all by the actions of extremists(or maybe even agent provocateurs), I find it very hard to relate to either side, but I’m always going to favour the group being treated like prisoners in the land they grew up in. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/45 "2012-11-19T14:13:53Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wait, you mean one of my options is to have rockets launched at Bon Jovi? Sign me up! They say they’ve got to hold on to what they’ve got Cause it doesn’t make a difference If they make it or not They hate each each other and that’s a lot For hate - they’ll give it a shot Whooah, we’re half way there Livin on a prayer Blow them all up and we’ll make it - I swear Livin on a prayer ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/46 "2012-11-19T14:16:13Z")
The solution is obvious. All of the worlds population should gather together grouped by their nationality. Then we simultaneously broadcast on all of the radio stations of the world some theme music (Ring Around the Rosy maybe) and, while the music plays everybody starts migrating to another country together as a group. They must keep migrating as long as the music plays. We suddenly stop the music and everybody has to scramble for the nearest country. Any population caught without a country gets shuttled to the middle of the Pacific Ocean and has to swim to shore. Do this about 4 or five times and we may just have some surplus land and enough countries for everybody. Sure, the entire population of china may have to settle in Panama or something but them’s the breaks. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/47 "2012-11-19T14:26:30Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Let’s have it administered impartially by the Vatican… Tom Clancy is that you? ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/48 "2012-11-19T15:10:36Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Here’s an idea, let’s propose a partition plan that creates a Jewish State and an Arab State and see which side accepts it and which side rejects it and goes to war to wipe the other side out. Then we support the side which accepted it the plan. Nah, too Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/49 "2012-11-19T15:35:27Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’m sorry that my country’s problems offend your sensibilities. Why, I’m certain I’ll lose tons of sleep over this. Just out of curiosity, do you have _any_ Hindus living in your country? (I know everyone says ‘just out of curiosity’ w / regards to Israel and then uses it to make a political jab. I really am just asking.) ---
**Author:** ![ed\_anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@ed\_anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed_anger)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/50 "2012-11-19T15:42:43Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > Out of curiosity, would you also support a mass immigration of Palestinians to any state, since it would solve the problem equally well? ok, ok, new solution. we move both Israel and Palestine to New Jersey. [http://i45.tinypic.com/negap2.jpg](http://i45.tinypic.com/negap2.jpg) (there’s no image tag on this board? wow) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/51 "2012-11-19T15:44:56Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Just out of curiosity, do you have _any_ Hindus living in your country? Apparently, [there are a few](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Israel), but that Wiki page didn’t happen to give any numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/52 "2012-11-19T15:45:36Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Just out of curiosity, do you have _any_ Hindus living in your country? > > (I know everyone says ‘just out of curiosity’ w / regards to Israel and then uses it to make a political jab. I really am just asking.) Well, Israelis love going to India, and you see plenty of Indian cultural flotsam and jetsam they bring back with them; I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some converts hanging around. There may also be some Hindus among the foreign worker population, although I haven’t seen any from India. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/53 "2012-11-19T15:49:55Z")
> [@ed\_anger](#): > > ok, ok, new solution. we move both Israel and Palestine to New Jersey. > > [http://i45.tinypic.com/negap2.jpg](http://i45.tinypic.com/negap2.jpg) > > (there’s no image tag on this board? wow) [Monty Python’s Meaning of Life] But I’m using it! [/MPMoL] ---
**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhodes/32/273_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhodes)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/54 "2012-11-19T15:50:44Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > **We should give Israel to the Mormons** > Or the Hindus. Or the Buddhists. Or the Zoroastrians. …is incompatible with… > [@buddha\_david](#): > > No, the point is to give the land to a group of people who have NO religious connection ---
**Author:** ![ed\_anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@ed\_anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed_anger)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/55 "2012-11-19T15:56:53Z")
Eh? None of those groups claim Israel as their spiritual homeland. ---
**Author:** ![dimmy\_derko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/43a26b/32.png) [@dimmy\_derko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dimmy_derko)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/56 "2012-11-19T16:02:01Z")
I don’t have any old books that back up my claim, but family oral tradition speaks of a place back on the mother continent that I intend to go back to and reclaim by force after I’ve won the Euromillions and trained my capuchin army. ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/57 "2012-11-19T16:03:10Z")
Nah, give it to the Japanese to run as a theme park. “Welcome to Religionland!” ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/58 "2012-11-19T16:18:55Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Just out of curiosity, do you have _any_ Hindus living in your country? > > (I know everyone says ‘just out of curiosity’ w / regards to Israel and then uses it to make a political jab. I really am just asking.) Well, there’s [Zubin Mehta](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubin_Mehta)… Oh, waidaminnit, he’s [Zoroastrian](http://www.nndb.com/people/667/000118313/). OK, not really, then 🙂 I mean, there are probably a few, but there’s no sizable Hindu **community** here that I’m aware of, **Monty** ’s cite notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/59 "2012-11-19T16:24:20Z")
> [@ed\_anger](#): > > I don’t think you “get” this thread. I wish. Several of the responses to this thread have decidedly **not** been as tongue-in-cheek as one might expect. ---
**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhodes/32/273_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhodes)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458/60 "2012-11-19T16:39:02Z")
> [@ed\_anger](#): > > Eh? None of those groups claim Israel as their spiritual homeland. Ah, my misread. I saw the second quote “NO religious connection” as meaning a faction not connected to religion, but he probably meant a religion not connected to Israel. Still, that disqualifies the Mormons. It’s an [article of faith](https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f/1?lang=eng) for them that Zion (the new Jerusalem) will be in America, but in the early days of Mormonism, Joseph Smith sent an apostle to the Holy Land to dedicate it for the [gathering of the Jews](http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=1deff48fa2d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a ____ &vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-should-give-israel-to-the-mormons/641458.md?page=4)