# We thought we'd killed the demon but the MFer won't stay dead! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 10, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451 "2016-05-10T01:10:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/21 "2016-05-10T04:16:53Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > [NOT DONE YET! CRUZ MOUNTS DELEGATE FIGHT AGAINST TRUMP](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/05/09/ted-cruz-backers-seek-to-control-convention-platform/?_r=0)Why doesn’t Cruz simply go away already? What a child. He won’t stay dead because [he’s a vampire.](http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/622/739d38f0-f2c9-0132-44e5-0a2ca390b447.jpg?) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/22 "2016-05-10T04:32:37Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > [NOT DONE YET! CRUZ MOUNTS DELEGATE FIGHT AGAINST TRUMP](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/05/09/ted-cruz-backers-seek-to-control-convention-platform/?_r=0)Why doesn’t Cruz simply go away already? What a child. Are you kidding me? That’s awesome. Don’t diss Cruz: he’s my main man. Did you know that shark embryos gobble each other up in utero? Fact. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/23 "2016-05-10T04:33:30Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > [Steeples fingers] “Excellent. Let them fight among themselves…” This is exactly what seems to be happening. It’s actually a lot like the aliens in _Independence Day_ – who not only tried to destroy the earth, but were so hateful and horrific that they also attacked and destroyed each other. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/24 "2016-05-10T04:35:53Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > This is exactly what seems to be happening. It’s actually a lot like the aliens in _Independence Day_ – who not only tried to destroy the earth, **but were so hateful and horrific that they also attacked and destroyed each other.** I don’t remember that part at all. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/25 "2016-05-10T04:45:44Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > This is not really an Elections discussion/debate. Considering IMHO and The BBQ Pit, I think it will do better in the Pit. As would Ted Cruz, but Satan won’t tolerate it. Some characters just spoil the neighborhood, and [Even Evil Has Standards.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenEvilHasStandards) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/26 "2016-05-10T04:47:55Z")
It certainly wasn’t a major plot point of the movie, and it’s been a long time since I’ve seen it so I could be misremembering it, but I think there was a scene where they were investigating a crashed alien ship and found that they had all been attacking each other. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/27 "2016-05-10T04:47:56Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Did you know that shark embryos gobble each other up in utero? Fact. Pikers! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/28 "2016-05-10T05:38:32Z")
If Trump gets to set the platform it will be even more bigoted than it was 4 years ago - and Cruz on the other hand wants it stupider and more bigoted in the standard Republican conservative way. But a Trump platform could be short. Trust me, I’ll get the best people, and it will be great. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/29 "2016-05-10T05:50:06Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > It certainly wasn’t a major plot point of the movie, and it’s been a long time since I’ve seen it so I could be misremembering it, but I think there was a scene where they were investigating a crashed alien ship and found that they had all been attacking each other. Predators? That’s the movie featuring infighting between vicious monsters with creepy faces and HUUUGE mouths. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/30 "2016-05-10T06:44:54Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Hopefully TRUMP deports the Canadian Cuban Confederate Communist Cruz back to Calgary once he assumes office. Those Canadians begin building a wall… ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/31 "2016-05-10T06:47:47Z")
But…but…he [promised to support a Trump nomination](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/12/ted-cruz-will-still-support-donald-trump-as-nominee/). Please don’t tell me that Ted Cruz lied! _\_ ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/32 "2016-05-10T08:21:01Z")
Looking ast the title, I thought this would be a rant about the Joe Paterno/Penn State/cardboard tube thread. which somebody recently dis-interred! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/33 "2016-05-10T09:24:52Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Hopefully TRUMP deports the Canadian Cuban Confederate Communist Cruz back to Calgary once he assumes office. You claim to be a Sanders supporter who is going to vote for Clinton. Yet you presupposed a “TRUMP” victory. And you string together a bunch of insults that only make sense coming out of a stupid Trump supporter. “Confederate Communist”? Really? I want to believe you’re being “ironic,” but it’s getting harder for me to believe so. Going by number of posts, you’ve made a lot more in favor of Trump than anything else. Why can’t your couple of pro-Sanders posts be the ones where you are lying? Oh, and I’m 100% for this. I still don’t get why people have hatred towards Cruz like this. I fully wanted him to win, so we’d have a sane election. Sure, I think his positions are bad, but Trumps are worse. Yeah, Cruz is an asshole, but he’s the kind that has to at least pretend to play nice. He plays the game–meaning he’s not going to fuck up diplomacy like Trump inevitably will. And he doesn’t completely ignore facts in his positions, which Trump does. Cruz takes the country back a few years. Trump could potentially do irreparable damage. Having them fight each other is probably the best thing that could happen. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/34 "2016-05-10T10:49:08Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > This is exactly what seems to be happening. It’s actually a lot like the aliens in _Independence Day_ – who not only tried to destroy the earth, but were so hateful and horrific that they also attacked and destroyed each other. Am I the only one who thought it was kind of a stretch that we decided that the Independence Day Aliens were all a bunch of racist alien xenophobes who couldn’t be negotiated with and wanted us dead when all we had as proof of it was the one interview with the injured and captured alien fighter pilot that Will Smith captured. I mean, the alien was understandably hostile; it had just been shot down and captured, and was trying to escape its captors. The fact that it psychically attacked the President and sent him disturbing images about the alien fleet conquering the Earth and stripping it of its resources isn’t necessarily anything more than the bravado of a desperate captive trying to escape. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/35 "2016-05-10T11:16:07Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Am I the only one who thought it was kind of a stretch that we decided that the Independence Day Aliens were all a bunch of racist alien xenophobes who couldn’t be negotiated with and wanted us dead when all we had as proof of it was the one interview with the injured and captured alien fighter pilot that Will Smith captured. I mean, the alien was understandably hostile; it had just been shot down and captured, and was trying to escape its captors. The fact that it psychically attacked the President and sent him disturbing images about the alien fleet conquering the Earth and stripping it of its resources isn’t necessarily anything more than the bravado of a desperate captive trying to escape. You seem to be forgetting the whole “unprovoked leveling of the major cities of the world” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/36 "2016-05-10T11:39:08Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > You seem to be forgetting the whole “unprovoked leveling of the major cities of the world” thing. I’m not saying they weren’t hostile. All I’m saying is that we don’t actually know their motivations. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/37 "2016-05-10T11:46:38Z")
Don’t forget, the poor alien was physically assaulted by Will Smith while the alien was lying helpless in his downed craft! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/38 "2016-05-10T12:16:22Z")
As soon as I saw the thread title I knew it was about Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/39 "2016-05-10T12:32:50Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I’m not saying they weren’t hostile. All I’m saying is that we don’t actually know their motivations. At that level of hostility, their motivations don’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451/40 "2016-05-10T12:35:44Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > … I still don’t get why people have hatred towards Cruz like this. I fully wanted him to win, so we’d have a sane election. … Sir, step away from the Green Eggs And Ham. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-thought-wed-killed-the-demon-but-the-mfer-wont-stay-dead/754451.md?page=3)