# We were on a break!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 11, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774 "2005-10-11T16:56:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/41 "2005-10-12T21:13:59Z")

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There are many things that are hard to forgive, but there are very few first offenses (drunk cheating included) that should be impossible to forgive, at least that’s the way I see it. For those who see otherwise, I trust you will stave off the confusing caserole of emotions you choke down when you’re strugglinh in a reltationship and never once go astray. And for that I truly envy you (I am in no way being facetious, seriously). I am so flawed that I find forgiveness of others is the only salve for wicked past.

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/42 "2005-10-12T21:15:33Z")

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my wicked past.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/43 "2005-10-12T21:15:55Z")

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> [@whole bean](#):
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> I am so flawed that I find forgiveness of others is the only salve for wicked past.

Sure–but I’m guessing that you are lots more willing to forgive others when they admit they did something wrong. Ross didn’t admit that: whenever confronted with it, he insisted, “We were on a break!” as if that were all the excuse he needed.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/44 "2005-10-12T21:24:43Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> Sure–but I’m guessing that you are lots more willing to forgive others when they admit they did something wrong. Ross didn’t admit that: whenever confronted with it, he insisted, “We were on a break!” as if that were all the excuse he needed.
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> Daniel

you’re right. I saw your post saying as much after I posted. I agree, he did rely too much on his defense, but it was a break 😉

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/45 "2005-10-17T19:42:29Z")

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Yes, they were both being dumb (nothing new there). But Ross, knowing how badly Rachel felt hurt, certainly didn’t help the situation with his constant refrain, “We were on a break!”

One nice follow-up: when Rachel later flies to London, she’s seated next to a British guy (Hugh Laurie, better known these days for “Stuart Little” and “House”) to whom she opens her heart about her relationship and past dealings with Ross.

The guy matter-of-factly agrees with Ross: “Anyone could see you were on a break!”

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/46 "2005-10-17T22:23:13Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> You’ll remember the conversation Ross has with Isaac, with him saying, “Yeah, you dog!” and Ross saying how he doesn’t want to see Rachel hurt, and Isaac saying that he and Ross are just the same?
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> At the end of that conversation, Ross says to Isaac, “Fine. We’re the same. But please, please, don’t tell your sister.”
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> There’s a pause, and then Isaac deadpans: “Uh… I can promise not to tell her _again_.”
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> Then the scene shifts to the massage place where Phoebe works. Ross finds Jasmine and introduces himself, and Jasmine’s immediate reaction is: “You did a bad thing!” Ross castigates himself in complete agreement, explains he loves Rachel, and begs her not to reveal this information to Phoebe.
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> Jasimine reluctantly agrees, and then mentions: “But you should probably talk to my roommate, because I told him and he knows Phoebe too.”
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> The next shot is Ross rushing into Central Perk, where he sees Gunther wiping down the counter, and says, “Gunther! Gunther. Gunther, please tell me you didn’t say anything to Rachel about me and the girl from the Xerox place.”
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> Gunther blandly replies, “I’m sorry - was I not supposed to?”
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> Jasmine was played by one Cynthia Mann, who is probably best known for an extended guest run on “Veronica’s Closet” as Virginia.

And I thought _I_ had seen too many episodes of **Friends** in syndication. I bow before the master.

(And I must shamefacedly admit that I got Chloe and Caitlin confused. Was Caitlin the cute pizza delivery girl who Ross attempted to flirt with by discussing the odor of natural gas?)

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/47 "2005-10-17T22:49:35Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Was Caitlin the cute pizza delivery girl who Ross attempted to flirt with by discussing the odor of natural gas?

Yup.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/48 "2005-10-18T02:32:55Z")

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I always sided with Ross. She initiates a breakup and them blames him for picking up a quick rebound. Of course, if Ross truly loved Rachel he wouldn’t want the one night stand. But if Rachel truly loved Ross she wouldn’t have gone nuclear. They were both to blame, but Rachel blew Ross’ one night indiscretion way out of proportion.

Side question:  
Does anyone know how many sex partners each of the Friends had or alluded to during the run of the show? If I had to guess, it would be Joey in first place, followed by Rachel, followed by Ross, followed by Monica, followed by Phoebe, with Chandler bringing up the rear.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/49 "2005-10-18T02:39:51Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I always sided with Ross. She initiates a breakup and them blames him for picking up a quick rebound. Of course, if Ross truly loved Rachel he wouldn’t want the one night stand. But if Rachel truly loved Ross she wouldn’t have gone nuclear. They were both to blame, but Rachel blew Ross’ one night indiscretion way out of proportion.
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> Side question:  
> Does anyone know how many sex partners each of the Friends had or alluded to during the run of the show? If I had to guess, it would be Joey in first place, followed by Rachel, followed by Ross, followed by Monica, followed by Phoebe, with Chandler bringing up the rear.

Actually - i think it’d be Joey, Monica, Phoebe, Rachel, Chandler, Ross

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/50 "2005-10-18T02:43:20Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Actually - i think it’d be Joey, Monica, Phoebe, Rachel, Chandler, Ross

\*Phoebe??? \* I don’t recall her getting that much action

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/51 "2005-10-18T02:45:28Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> \*Phoebe??? \* I don’t recall her getting that much action

she had more dates than Rachel did  
and Monica was always going on dates in season one  
fun bobby, young ethan, etc etc etc

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/52 "2005-10-18T02:47:29Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> \*Phoebe??? \* I don’t recall her getting that much action

actually, you may be right - Rachel had a lot of alluded to action prior to Barry, but very little after him until season 3 or 4; it maybe a tie -  
and Monica was always going on dates in season one  
fun bobby, young ethan, etc etc etc  
but I really think it’s Ross who trails

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-were-on-a-break/325774/53 "2005-10-18T02:48:39Z")

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