# We who have seen Iron Man 2, salute you! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 29, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763 "2010-04-29T17:57:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/1 "2010-04-29T17:57:53Z")
So I saw Iron Man 2 today. It was some sort of secret preview - we were 7 people in the entire theater. It wasn’t even advertised, and the film doesn’t even open for another week. Very wierd… but perfect for us. Anyway, good movie. Maybe not as good as the first one, but still very fun. Downey was Downeyriffic, Mickey Rourke was an effective villain (and Sam Rockwell a wonderfly ineffectual one), and Scarlett Johansen looks amazing in a catsuit. The action scenes were good, buty oddly enough, there wasn’t all that much Iron Man in _Iron Man 2_. Don’t have much time to write now; I’ll post some more thoughts later. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/2 "2010-04-29T18:09:10Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The action scenes were good, buty oddly enough, there wasn’t all that much Iron Man in _Iron Man 2_. That sounds fine to me. I thought that the best and most interesting scenes in the first movie were the ones that _didn’t_ use the suit. ---
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/3 "2010-04-29T18:25:13Z")
I have not paid much attention to the hype around this movie and hadn’t really planned on seeing it until it came out on DVD. Then I saw this line. > [@Alessan](#): > > Scarlett Johansen looks amazing in a catsuit. May 7, _I’m there._ ---
**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/4 "2010-04-30T10:41:08Z")
The hell? Here in the Netherlands it was released on the 29th. Odd, that. Some wonderful dialogue, and luckily this doesn’t take itself not too seriously. (Samuel L motherfucking Jackson going “I’m going to have to ask you to vacate the donut”. I shit you not.) Tony is wittier than humanly possible. Wonderful details all around. POSSIBLY TINY SPOILERY THINGS At some point in the middle of the final fight Tony uses the repulsor under his foot to knee someone in the (robot) crotch. Great touch. Sadly, it doesn’t have the intro scene from the trailer “You complete me!” Scarlett indeed looks great. Her intro scene with ‘happy’ wasn’t all too bad either. The demonstration video of Hammer’s armour got some great responses from the public. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/5 "2010-04-30T10:49:58Z")
> [@MostlyClueless](#): > > Some wonderful dialogue, and luckily this doesn’t take itself not too seriously. (Samuel L motherfucking Jackson going “I’m going to have to ask you to vacate the donut”. I shit you not.) Tony is wittier than humanly possible. Wonderful details all around. Oh, yeah. This is definitely no _Dark Knight_. > [@MostlyClueless](#): > > The demonstration video of Hammer’s armour got some great responses from the public. That was one of the most subtely horrifying shots I’ve seen in a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Engineerly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9adbd/32.png) [@Engineerly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Engineerly)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/6 "2010-05-01T02:01:22Z")
Loved the fakeout with Captain America’s shield. Hated Rockwell’s character, seemed a bit too ineffectual. I thought the line about Rourke’s father during Jackson’s scene with Howard Stark’s trunk was a hamfisted way of justifying Whiplash as a Very Bad Man. Also though the whole boxing scene was solely written so that the Director got to fondle Scarlett Johansson’s legs. Other than that, loved the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/7 "2010-05-01T02:03:24Z")
It opened throughout Bangkok on Thursday. Dunno why so soon before the US. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/8 "2010-05-01T02:11:45Z")
I call shenanigans! Half the point of living in the US is that we get to see big-budget movies before everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/9 "2010-05-01T02:16:59Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I call shenanigans! Half the point of living in the US is that we get to see big-budget movies before everyone else. No, really. It opened citywide on Thursday. You can check the times and locations at our [Movie Seer](http://www.movieseer.com/th/showtime.aspx) website. (The times are almost always wrong, though.) We’ll wait until next weekend or so to see it ourselves. Will probably be a crunch now. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/10 "2010-05-01T02:29:57Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I call shenanigans! Half the point of living in the US is that we get to see big-budget movies before everyone else. All kidding aside, maybe that’s the problem? Say they didn’t want Iron Man 2 opening against this week’s new Nightmare on Elm Street debut that’ll suck up the teens looking for a special-effects-laden flick and the Furry Vengeance debut that’ll suck up the families looking to entertain the kids – because it’s easier to give the big-budget comic-book movie a weekend all to itself, increasing the odds of follow-up headlines that read “#1 at the box office” or “record-breaker” while decreasing the odds of, y’know, “underwhelming performance” or “too soon to call it a flop?” Don’t put opening night up against the first (or even second) week for Kick-Ass. Don’t put it up against the first (or even second) week for The Losers. Let everyone who’ll be waiting in line for those get all of that out of their system, and _ **then** _ bring out the big guns. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/11 "2010-05-01T02:33:57Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > All kidding aside, maybe that’s the problem? Say they didn’t want Iron Man 2 opening against this week’s new Nightmare on Elm Street debut that’ll suck up the teens looking for a special-effects-laden flick and the Furry Vengeance debut that’ll suck up the families looking to entertain the kids – because it’s easier to give the big-budget comic-book movie a weekend all to itself, increasing the odds of follow-up headlines that read “#1 at the box office” or “record-breaker” while decreasing the odds of, y’know, “underwhelming performance” or “too soon to call it a flop?” That still doesn’t explain why they didn’t wait another week or two to open it in Thailand. It’s not normal for movies like this to open ahead of the US release. Smaller films occasionally, but never the big-budget stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/12 "2010-05-01T02:42:45Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > No, really. It opened citywide on Thursday. You can check the times and locations at our [Movie Seer](http://www.movieseer.com/th/showtime.aspx) website. (The times are almost always wrong, though.) Didn’t mean to suggest you were lying. Just thought it was funny 🙂 Especially Thailand, which has a reputation for being the source of a lot of movie piracy. You’d think they’d be worried that showing it there and having a bunch of people in the US end up watching the resulting pirated copies rather then wait a week to see it in theaters. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/13 "2010-05-01T02:46:04Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Didn’t mean to suggest you were lying. Just thought it was funny 🙂 > > Especially Thailand, which has a reputation for being the source of a lot of movie piracy. You’d think they’d be worried that showing it there and having a bunch of people in the US end up watching the resulting pirated copies rather then wait a week to see it in theaters. Yes, this is strange. The movie situation has vastly improved over the years. I remember _Forrest Gump_ and the first _Jurassic Park_ movies showed for six months straight without a change. _Lethal Weapon_. But nowadays they disappear after a week or two. But appearing before the US debut is definitely odd. This IS a holiday weekend, it being Labor Day, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/14 "2010-05-01T04:22:47Z")
It opened in Australia on Thursday. _Australia_! We didn’t even get _The Book of Eli_ until two weeks ago. If someone’s doing something weird this time around it’s the US, not everyone else in the world. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/15 "2010-05-01T10:34:58Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > That still doesn’t explain why they didn’t wait another week or two to open it in Thailand. Well, for the other half of such an explanation, which other movies opened when in Thailand? Have either Nightmare on Elm Street or Furry Vengeance shown up yet? ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/16 "2010-05-01T11:34:58Z")
I’ll spoiler this though it isn’t a plot point but something that took me out of the movie. So after you have seen it: [spoiler]For those that have seen it, was it just my perception or did it appear that when Ivan Vanko is talking to Justin Hammer, Sam Rockwell’s palms look like he has been using self tanning lotion without gloves or handwashing? The shot at the table is from a low angle, his hands are really prominent and his palms look darker than the backs of his hands. I found it distracting and couldn’t work out how it would have happened. Later his hands look normal. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/17 "2010-05-02T01:23:27Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Well, for the other half of such an explanation, which other movies opened when in Thailand? Have either Nightmare on Elm Street or Furry Vengeance shown up yet? No, but the posters are up, and previews for the latter have begun. _Shutter Island_ and _The Princess and the Frog_ arrived a month ago, _Brooklyn’s Finest_ maybe a couple of weeks ago. I can only assume this being a holiday weekend is the reason, but it’s not happened before, nor is it like May is short of holidays here: Besides the present Labor Day weekend, Wednesday is Constitution Day, the 13th is the Royal Plowing Ceremony, and the 28th is Wisakha Bucha Day. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/18 "2010-05-04T08:41:49Z")
I just came back from seeing it. This shouldn’t be too much of a surprise, but I loved it. I’d say my favourite parts were Stark making a mockery of the senate inquiry and the supposed urgency caused by the various competing power armour programs, Stark and Rhodey brawling, and Iron Man and War Machine grinding entire squads of drones to scrap. Apart from that, I was held up by a talkative associate of mine and so arrived at the theatre a little late. Could someone fill me in on what happened up to the “Six Months Later” timeskip? ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/19 "2010-05-04T08:46:47Z")
Singapore got it on 31st April, and I watch it on 1st May. No idea why it is so late in the US… Anyway, I like the show,though for me it seems to be more of “Tony Stark getting along with his secretary/CEO” plus some Iron Man elements. But the lines are well written enough. It’s all good. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/20 "2010-05-04T14:51:08Z")
> [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](#): > > Singapore got it on 31st April, and I watch it on 1st May. No idea why it is so late in the US… > > Anyway, I like the show,though for me it seems to be more of “Tony Stark getting along with his secretary/CEO” plus some Iron Man elements. But the lines are well written enough. It’s all good. Here in the U.S. We don’t even have a 31st of April! Something is indeed fishy. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763.md?page=2)