# We who have seen Iron Man 2, salute you! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 29, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763 "2010-04-29T17:57:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![vdgg81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3d9bf3/32.png) [@vdgg81](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vdgg81)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/21 "2010-05-04T15:32:36Z")
I watched it yesterday. My overall reaction was “meh”. Too much drama and too long, but nothing in it was bad. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/22 "2010-05-04T17:29:05Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > … Wednesday is Constitution Day … Oops! I meant Coronation Day. Constitution Day is in December. > [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](#): > > Singapore got it on 31st April, and I watch it on 1st May. No idea why it is so late in the US… > [@Wile\_E](#): > > Here in the U.S. We don’t even have a 31st of April! Something is indeed fishy. Um, yeah. We have an extra day in Southeast Asia, since we don’t have daylight saving time. 🙂 > [@vdgg81](#): > > I watched it yesterday. My overall reaction was “meh”. Too much drama and too long, but nothing in it was bad. I’ve not heard much good about it so far. Am waiting for Ebert’s review. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/23 "2010-05-05T04:20:24Z")
When I saw that Blacklash had been chosen for the film, I was a little taken aback. I remember reading the comic back in the day where Iron Man and Spidey teamed up to fight Blacklash, and he was a world-class pussy. I haven’t seen the film; I hope Mickey Rourke made him a worthy presence. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/24 "2010-05-07T06:42:46Z")
> [@Snooooopy](#): > > When I saw that Blacklash had been chosen for the film, I was a little taken aback. I remember reading the comic back in the day where Iron Man and Spidey teamed up to fight Blacklash, and he was a world-class pussy. I haven’t seen the film; I hope Mickey Rourke made him a worthy presence. He’s not technically Blacklash, he’s Whiplash, and even then not the Whiplash that is in the comics. He’s closer to the Crimson Dynamo, in that he’s Russian and more powerful, but essentially he’s new. I just got back from the midnight showing, very tired, work morning, need bed, but I will say this: STAY FOR AFTER THE CREDITS!!! Edit: The credits are long, so you have time to go pee during them and not miss the extra scene. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/25 "2010-05-07T07:18:52Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > That sounds fine to me. I thought that the best and most interesting scenes in the first movie were the ones that _didn’t_ use the suit. Same here. Iron Man’s interesting in that he’s one of the few superheroes where the person/“secret identity” is more interesting than the superhero. Tony Stark is much more interesting than Iron Man… you can’t say the same about Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, etc. The scene where he’s first testing out the suit (against the tank and jets) was pretty cool, but after that all the suit scenes kinda fizzled (especially the end fight against Iron Monger). ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/26 "2010-05-07T14:14:38Z")
So did it have a lot of that trademark Jon Favreau riffing that they had in the first one. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/27 "2010-05-07T16:08:05Z")
Saw it last night. I had a real good time and recommend it to fans of the first one. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/28 "2010-05-07T16:10:35Z")
Saw it. Enjoyable enough but I’ve already pretty much forgotten it, almost nothing really memorable. Probably wouldn’t work very well without Downey Jr’s charm. For some reason I can accept the premise of one superhero and maybe a few supervillains, but when you get into a world with multiple secret superheroes and a secret alliance between them, I just can’t buy it. So all the stuff with Nick Fury and SHIELD both made no sense to me (not being a comic fan) and also just took me right out of the movie. I don’t see how the movie would be anything but better without all of that. I also never quite understood the motivation of the bad guy. His dad got booted from the country for espionage - were those charges trumped up by Howard Stark to squash a competitor or something? ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/29 "2010-05-07T17:13:59Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I also never quite understood the motivation of the bad guy. His dad got booted from the country for espionage - were those charges trumped up by Howard Stark to squash a competitor or something? Nick Fury briefly says that the official reason given by the governemnt was espionage, but the actual reason was that her only wanted to build the arc reactor for profit, wheras Papa Stark was thinking about the good of humanity. Whiplash, seeing his father cast into disgrace and all of his brilliant work forgotten (everyone credits Stark for the arc reactor) seeks to get revenge on the son of the man responsible, since the man responsible is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Saganist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Saganist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saganist)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/30 "2010-05-07T20:14:51Z")
I’m not sure why, but I loved the Sam Rockwell character. Probably because I could never decide if he was the incompetent, but cocky young CEO, or the _real_ bad guy who was just playing everyone with his goofy image that he presents to everyone. Or at least not until the end of the movie. The scene where he describes his prized mini-missile was perfect as it was both hilarious and terrifying. I was quite disappointed to see it fall a number of steps short of writing a book. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/31 "2010-05-07T20:48:06Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > All kidding aside, maybe that’s the problem? Say they didn’t want Iron Man 2 opening against this week’s new Nightmare on Elm Street debut that’ll suck up the teens looking for a special-effects-laden flick and the Furry Vengeance debut that’ll suck up the families looking to entertain the kids – because it’s easier to give the big-budget comic-book movie a weekend all to itself, increasing the odds of follow-up headlines that read “#1 at the box office” or “record-breaker” while decreasing the odds of, y’know, “underwhelming performance” or “too soon to call it a flop?” > > Don’t put opening night up against the first (or even second) week for Kick-Ass. Don’t put it up against the first (or even second) week for The Losers. Let everyone who’ll be waiting in line for those get all of that out of their system, and _ **then** _ bring out the big guns. I am mortally certain Iron Man picked its date first and then the other studios scheduled to avoid IT. The big dogs pick first and then the bottom feeders adjust accordingly. > [@Grumman](#): > > Apart from that, I was held up by a talkative associate of mine and so arrived at the theatre a little late. Could someone fill me in on what happened up to the “Six Months Later” timeskip? Not much. Ivanko is watching the Stark press conference from the first film in a dank apartment. Dad says that it should be Ivanko standing there. Then he dies and Ivanko scream in angst. > [@joebuck20](#): > > So did it have a lot of that trademark Jon Favreau riffing that they had in the first one. Even more than the first. He’s quite funny in the film. One mild thing that bugged me in the preview that turned out to be fine: I complained how the trees and park looked fake where IM and WM fought the drones. Turns out, that’s because they WERE fake! ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/32 "2010-05-08T03:00:47Z")
> [@don\_t\_ask](#): > > I’ll spoiler this though it isn’t a plot point but something that took me out of the movie. So after you have seen it: > > [spoiler]For those that have seen it, was it just my perception or did it appear that when Ivan Vanko is talking to Justin Hammer, Sam Rockwell’s palms look like he has been using self tanning lotion without gloves or handwashing? > > The shot at the table is from a low angle, his hands are really prominent and his palms look darker than the backs of his hands. I found it distracting and couldn’t work out how it would have happened. Later his hands look normal. > > [/spoiler] I noticed that too. I was waiting for a joke about someone who can’t use self tanner correctly; it may have ended up on the cutting room floorI loved it. Not quite as much as the first Iron Man, but it was close. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/33 "2010-05-08T03:08:02Z")
Saw it tonight with my son and we both really enjoyed it. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/34 "2010-05-08T03:29:32Z")
If you could combine the best aspects of both movies…you would have one kickass movie. I loved the action in the second one. Way more suit(s) and way more fighting, just what I like in a superhero movie. I wasn’t the biggest fan of the writing. The last movie was a lot of Downey being Downey. He was witty, funny, joyfully narcissistic, and overall great. The movie was funny and people liked that. Then comes this movie and it seemed to me that all the funny parts in this move were written, as opposed to improv. It was still enjoyable banter, and the jokes that I did hear were, for the most part, good; but there was something about it that seemed very staged. All that being said…way worth it, awesome movie, can’t wait for it on Blu-Ray and can’t wait for Avengers! ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/35 "2010-05-08T04:33:21Z")
I had an absolute blast. There’s just something about seeing a movie like this in a theater of geeks decked out in Iron Man arc reactor tee shirts (one guy was wearing a full on halloween costume, complete with the little ribbon holding it all together in the back) and hearing them cheer when Iron Man busts out the lasers, or when Tony Stark uses Captain America’s shield to prop up his machine (that was maybe my favorite joke in the movie). But, even beyond that, it was just so entertaining. I’m not saying it was perfect. There were several plot holes (if Natasha could hack Rhodie’s War Machine suit, why couldn’t she disable the droids?) and the birthday party scene bordered on embarrassing, but damned if I didn’t have the best time I’ve had at a movie in a long time. I’ll be seeing it again, thats for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/36 "2010-05-08T06:17:46Z")
The Part that had me and the rest of the audience cracking up: Stark activates the Triforce errr I mean his new-and-improved arc reactor and goes all super-saiyan, then says, “tastes like coconut” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BadgerHunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@BadgerHunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BadgerHunter)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/37 "2010-05-08T07:59:00Z")
What, if anything, was after the credits? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/38 "2010-05-08T10:52:17Z")
> [@BadgerHunter](#): > > What, if anything, was after the credits? What, you never stay for the credits? :eek: The wife and I just returned from seeing it. Worth a look, but it didn’t grab us like the first one did. I didn’t quite get … how his father’s message from the past allowed him to find/invent a new element. What, his father knew he would have to have this?? 😕 As for post-credits, you see the guy who went off to New Mexico there on the scene at the introduction of what will be the next Marvel movie, although it looks like it will involve someone other than Iron Man. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/39 "2010-05-08T11:27:42Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > That \*\*[the Hammer armor accident]\*\*was one of the most subtely horrifying shots I’ve seen in a long time. Yeah…I think someone was watching [Robocop 2](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=timfETD-N4o). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/40 "2010-05-08T11:46:26Z")
> [@BadgerHunter](#): > > What, if anything, was after the credits? The SHIELD agent drives to a crater or excavation site, opens his phone and says, “We found him.” It then shows Mjolnir and the scene ends with a clap of thunder. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763.md?page=3)