# We who have seen Iron Man 2, salute you!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 29, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763 "2010-04-29T17:57:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/81 "2010-05-10T15:25:01Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> So, what’s the next Avengers tie-in movie coming up? We had Iron Man 1 and 2, the Hulk re-make…were there more? And which one is next?

We’ve got _Thor_ and _Captain America_ coming up, in 2011. That gives us at least four Avengers and the Hulk. I don’t know if the Black Panther, Wasp or Dr. Pym will be involved, but I’m doubtful about Ultimate Hawkeye - while he’d be awesome, I think he might be too violent for this series of movies.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/82 "2010-05-10T15:25:14Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> So, what’s the next Avengers tie-in movie coming up? We had Iron Man 1 and 2, the Hulk re-make…were there more? And which one is next?

Thor next year.

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/83 "2010-05-10T15:30:43Z")

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Ooooh…Captain America…  
_“When Captain America throws his mighty shieeeeeeeeeeld…  
All those who have come to oppose his shield must yieeeeeeeeeld…”_

Not sure about Thor…however, a movie with Val Halla from Dexter’s Lab might be fun…

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/84 "2010-05-10T15:35:41Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> There is no way Robert Downey Jr. does just a cameo in The Avengers. No way.
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> I’d bet anything on it.

Fury said they would only use him as a consultant.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/85 "2010-05-10T15:42:59Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> Not sure about Thor…however, a movie with Val Halla from Dexter’s Lab might be fun…

It’s a movie with a god of storms, thunder and war as a protagonist. If they’ve got half a brain, the visuals should be awe-inspiring.

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/86 "2010-05-10T15:47:11Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> It’s a movie with a god of storms, thunder and war as a protagonist. If they’ve got half a brain, the visuals should be awe-inspiring.

That’s kinda my point - they COULD get it right…but they may over-do it with the SFX and leave the story in the dirt…

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/87 "2010-05-10T15:49:15Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Fury said they would only use him as a consultant.

They have Robert Downey Jr already under contract to appear in The Avengers. Marvel would be fools if they didn’t greenlight a script that features a lot of awesome Tony Stark snark.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/88 "2010-05-10T15:50:27Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> That’s kinda my point - they COULD get it right…but they may over-do it with the SFX and leave the story in the dirt…

Given the people involved, that might be difficult. I doubt they’d let you get away with that.

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/89 "2010-05-10T15:52:39Z")

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Part of my concern with Thor is, well, he’s _THOR_…Everyone else is either a normal guy enhanced by technology, or a normal guy afflicted with Science Gone Wrong™…Thor is a Norse God…how are they gonna work THAT in?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/90 "2010-05-10T16:22:10Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> Part of my concern with Thor is, well, he’s _THOR_…Everyone else is either a normal guy enhanced by technology, or a normal guy afflicted with Science Gone Wrong™…Thor is a Norse God…how are they gonna work THAT in?

He only _thinks_ he’s a Norse God?

I got nothin’.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/91 "2010-05-10T16:34:38Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> Part of my concern with Thor is, well, he’s _THOR_…Everyone else is either a normal guy enhanced by technology, or a normal guy afflicted with Science Gone Wrong™…Thor is a Norse God…how are they gonna work THAT in?

…by having him be a Norse god? There’s no reason they can’t put mythology and magic into the Avengers universe. They’ve never said it doesn’t exist, we just haven’t seen it yet.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/92 "2010-05-10T16:40:36Z")

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So there’ll be no female leads in The Avengers? Don’t they kinda have to do that?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/93 "2010-05-10T16:42:52Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> …by having him be a Norse god? There’s no reason they can’t put mythology and magic into the Avengers universe. They’ve never said it doesn’t exist, we just haven’t seen it yet.

I think the argument is that any human characters would be grossly outmatched by an actual God of Thunder in the Marvel Movieverse.

I can’t say I disagree right now. Hopefully they don’t blow it when Thor comes out next year.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/94 "2010-05-10T16:45:23Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> According to my wife, he wanted a pretty major salary bump once everyone saw how well the first movie did. Couldn’t tell you how much but enough so that it was cheaper to get Don Cheadle in there.

Richard Herd told a bunch of us at Dragon\*Con last year, “You wouldn’t believe how many roles I’ve gotten because I was willing to work cheap.” The one he specifically mentioned was his uber-evil corporate exec in _The China Syndrome_, which he got offered because the original actor insisted on more money than they were willing to pay.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/95 "2010-05-10T16:48:53Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> He only _thinks_ he’s a Norse God?
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> I got nothin’.

Cast list for the movie:  
Idris Elba … Heimdall

Anthony Hopkins … Odin

Tom Hiddleston … Loki

Jaimie Alexander … Sif

Rene Russo … Frigga  
That’s some collective insanity there.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/96 "2010-05-10T18:01:21Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> That still doesn’t explain why they didn’t wait another week or two to open it in Thailand. It’s not normal for movies like this to open ahead of the US release. Smaller films occasionally, but never the big-budget stuff.

I just read that it was released early overseas so it wouldn’t have its opening weeks compete with the World Cup. From The Hollywood Reporter:

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> Paramount’s rush to release “Iron Man 2” overseas was reportedly made in order to give it more time before June’s World Cup captures everyone’s attention.

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**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/97 "2010-05-10T18:06:26Z")

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Thor is next. They found his hammer after the credits. They had a Captain American comic book and shield also in IM2. I missed it, but I read that the news footage from The incredible Hulk was playing in the background behind Nick Fury at one point.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/98 "2010-05-10T18:12:52Z")

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How _did_ the Captain’s shield get into Tony’s lab?

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/99 "2010-05-10T18:35:22Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> So there’ll be no female leads in The Avengers? Don’t they kinda have to do that?

Black Widow will likely appear.

> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> That’s kinda my point - they COULD get it right…but they may over-do it with the SFX and leave the story in the dirt…

Kenneth Branaugh would not be directing if they wanted just another popcorn flick.

> [@Skammer](#):
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> How _did_ the Captain’s shield get into Tony’s lab?

I’m guessing it will turn out to be a prototype weapon Tony built for the armor which he gives to Cap once he defrosts.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-who-have-seen-iron-man-2-salute-you/537763/100 "2010-05-10T18:43:09Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> They have Robert Downey Jr already under contract to appear in The Avengers. Marvel would be fools if they didn’t greenlight a script that features a lot of awesome Tony Stark snark.

The contract may be very limited in how much RDJ is required to do. Or it may be extensive. It may simply say he has to “appear” and that they need to work around his shooting schedule for other films (which frequently becomes a contract out when timing can’t be worked out) or it may require him to commit months to the project on their schedule and their terms.

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