# "We will not condone your perversion" (kinda lame OP)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 30, 2004, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958 "2004-06-30T22:20:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![hybrid\_dogfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@hybrid\_dogfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hybrid_dogfish)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/1 "2004-06-30T22:20:07Z")

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[Scottish B&B denys double room to gay couple](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3854451.stm)

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> Mr Nock, 34, and his partner of five years, were told they could not stay in a double room in a guest house because their relationship was “unnatural”.  
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> Mr Forrest informed him: “We do not have a problem with your personal sexual deviation, that is up to you. You are welcome to our twin room if you wish, but we will not condone your perversion.”

For fuck’s sake, can’t we leave the medieval attitude behind?

Ah shit, I can’t even be bothered to do a proper pitting on such a self-righteous fuckwit as Mr. Forrest, it’s just that sometimes you see something on the news that really erodes your belief in the human race’s ability to one day treat people as people. ☹

Mr. Forrest, I consign thee to the pit.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/2 "2004-06-30T22:28:05Z")

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I like this jewel:

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> “Basically I pointed out that heterosexuals, a more natural **breed** , also have rights; this extending to whom we allow to share a double bed in our home,” he said.

WTF? Breed? BREED? I wonder what he thinks about Black people, or Asians even… :eek:

Sam

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/3 "2004-06-30T22:36:24Z")

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The guy does have a right to decide who he allows to share a double bed in his home. But in that case, he shouldn’t open his home up as a business.

I can’t get that upset about it, because it just sounds like pseudo-natural-selection at work. I mean, isn’t it really, really stupid for a bed & breakfast, of all businesses, to discriminate against homosexuals? What next, antique store owners?

I’m not perpetuating stereotypes. I’m just sayin’, is all.

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/4 "2004-06-30T22:37:49Z")

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I would like to say some B&B’s are also the owners personal home, as such I believe they should be allowed to make whatever rules they want for their guests, since it crosses the line between buisness premisis and home. Still their attitude is reprehensible in this day and age.

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/5 "2004-06-30T22:39:38Z")

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In fact reprehensible in any day and age. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/6 "2004-06-30T22:58:10Z")

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They’ve added a note to [their webpage](http://www.torridon-mountains.com/cromasaig/index.htm) advising people of their exclusive policy:

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> We will only allow heterosexual couples and singles to occupy our double bedded rooms.

It’s kind of irksome to see such a thing so close to a three-star rating from the Scottish Tourist Board, don’t you think?

The e-mail address for the STB, incidentally, is [info@stb.gov.uk](mailto:info@stb.gov.uk)

Snail mail contact info:

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> Scottish Tourist Board  
> Edinburgh Office  
> 23 Ravelston Terrace  
> Edinburgh EH4 3EU  
> Tel: 0131 332 2433 Fax: 0131 343 1513

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**Author:** ![hybrid\_dogfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@hybrid\_dogfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hybrid_dogfish)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/7 "2004-06-30T23:00:47Z")

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Oh they certainly have the _right_ to make whatever rules they want, and certainly he is entitled to refuse a room to anyone on any grounds, but to calll someone a deviant and a pervert is just beyond the pale.

In a way I feel sorry for the bloke, after all, not only does he hold repugnant beliefs, and have the inability to shut up when it should be obvious that just about now would be the time to keep quiet, he honestly seems to be naive enough to believe that not providing a double bed will prevent sexual activity 😕 .

Oh, they have had their STB rating removed, according to the BBC article, so probably best not to bombard them with emails.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/8 "2004-06-30T23:22:21Z")

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> Oh, they have had their STB rating removed, according to the BBC article, so probably best not to bombard them with emails.

I think it’s still best to encourage them to flex their muscles a bit with regard to allowing the B&B to advertise a rating which they are no longer entitled to. From the mail I sent 'em:

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> However, this still gives the impression that the Scottish Tourist Board approves of their bigoted attitude.
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> I do hope that this will be remedied in the near future.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/9 "2004-06-30T23:25:27Z")

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> For fuck’s sake, can’t we leave the medieval attitude behind?

Silence knave, afore I choppeth thee in half with’n mine broadsword, ho!

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/10 "2004-06-30T23:34:16Z")

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I refuse to take accusations of “perversion” seriously from a member of a group that thinks haggis is cuisine. :eek: 😉

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/11 "2004-06-30T23:43:23Z")

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Some displays of homophobia make me sad.

Some displays of homophobia make me angry.

Some displays of homophobia make me giggle.

This, however, just makes me go :smack: for gods’ sake, are you _almost done?!_

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/12 "2004-07-01T00:38:56Z")

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Paging **Hamish** to rip this Mr. Forrest a new one.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/13 "2004-07-01T01:12:00Z")

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Soooooooooo…Scotland isn’t going to become the new Key West?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/14 "2004-07-01T01:17:54Z")

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That’s just fucked up.

(Although I wonder how they feel about unmarried heterosexuals?)

Shee-it.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/15 "2004-07-01T01:23:02Z")

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> [@hybrid\_dogfish](#):
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> Oh they certainly have the _right_ to make whatever rules they want, and certainly he is entitled to refuse a room to anyone on any grounds, …

No they don’t. They almost certainly breached sex discrimination legislation.

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**Author:** ![thirdwarning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thirdwarning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdwarning)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/16 "2004-07-01T01:29:49Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> That’s just fucked up.
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> (Although I wonder how they feel about unmarried heterosexuals?)
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> Shee-it.

I think your answer is in the quote that says they will only allow married couples and singles to occupy their double bed room. I seems they don’t want any unmarried couples, of any persuasion, to share a room.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/17 "2004-07-01T01:34:18Z")

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> [@thirdwarning](#):
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> I think your answer is in the quote that says they will only allow married couples and singles to occupy their double bed room. I seems they don’t want any unmarried couples, of any persuasion, to share a room.

That’s what they’re claiming _now_, after the event. No chance a court would take that claim seriously without some decent evidence that that was always their policy. And in any case, it still would be challengeable under equal-opportunity and human rights issues.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/18 "2004-07-01T01:41:08Z")

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> [@thirdwarning](#):
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> I seems they don’t want any unmarried couples, of any persuasion, to share a room.

Huh? Who mentioned marriage?

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> We will only allow heterosexual couples and singles to occupy our double bedded rooms.

You don’t have to be married to be a couple.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/19 "2004-07-01T01:49:40Z")

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> [@thirdwarning](#):
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> I think your answer is in the quote that says they will only allow married couples and singles to occupy their double bed room. I seems they don’t want any unmarried couples, of any persuasion, to share a room.

You’re right-I skipped that one. D’oh!

Still, how would they KNOW if a couple is married? What-do they demand a marriage license to prove it?

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/we-will-not-condone-your-perversion-kinda-lame-op/252958/20 "2004-07-01T01:53:36Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> (Although I wonder how they feel about unmarried heterosexuals?)
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Since they’ve appointed themselves morality enforcers, I wonder how and if they monitor possible “unnatural” acts among _married_ heterosexuals.  
Why do I envision a tiny camera lens in cabbage-rose wallpaper?  
“Stop that _right now_, you heathen perverts!”  
Or a detailed list of prohibited activities on the registration card: missionary position only, no audible sounds, flannel nightwear required…

Veb

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