# Weather Modification

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 4, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659 "2021-07-04T14:44:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/22 "2021-07-05T18:24:16Z")

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I said “maybe”, not “definitely”. Really close, at least.

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/23 "2021-07-05T18:29:28Z")

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That’s really low ! Photoshop?? @Darren_Garrison

That’s me on the right in the black and white jacket.

I was hoping for a conversation not this crap. This is a great example of why people don’t stay long.

I don’t know if why I freezing bother. Closed minds. .

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/24 "2021-07-05T18:39:13Z")

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If you want to be a part of the community why is your public profile hidden?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/25 "2021-07-05T18:42:45Z")

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1. This article seems like a stack of nonsense shuffled together like a deck of cards.
2. I’m glad that it’s in MPSIMS.
3. Hi Opal!

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/26 "2021-07-05T18:48:17Z")

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So I don’t have to read messages that are what is like the replies in this topic or worse.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/27 "2021-07-05T18:49:41Z")

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It’s not a “Bill Gates project” other than he provides some of the funding. Furthermore, the project is trying to learn what the risks of geoengineering are. It is not trying to “block the sun’s rays.”

> **[Fact check: Bill Gates is not trying to 'block the sun's rays' in the name of...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/23/fact-check-bill-gates-not-trying-block-suns-rays/7310134002/)**
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> Social media posts that claim Bill Gates is trying to block the sun's rays misrepresent a Harvard project that Gates' initiatives are helping fund.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/28 "2021-07-05T18:53:30Z")

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> [@shh1313](#):
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> That’s really low ! Photoshop??

That isn’t “Photoshop”–that is the two public profile photos compared side-by-side. No modifications done other than rotating your public profile pic from here.

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/29 "2021-07-05T18:55:18Z")

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I realize that. I was hoping for discussion. It’s still promoted by Bill.

Hopefully one of the my mods will clean the thread up. I still hope the discussion can go back to geo weather modification, throw in social engineering.

I really do hope the world can be better in the future. I hope people will get along.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/30 "2021-07-05T18:57:11Z")

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> [@shh1313](#):
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> Hopefully one of the my mods will clean the thread up.

I have reported it as possible spam. A mod can decide on if they think you and Opal are the same person.

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/31 "2021-07-05T18:57:44Z")

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For the record I deleted Facebook a long time ago.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/32 "2021-07-05T19:02:18Z")

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Since FB is so tightly integrated with the chip that the Gates Foundation implanted during the vaccination rollouts, that’s probably for the best. The things that Bill can derive from a simple “It’s complicated” are mind-boggling. AI is scary.

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/33 "2021-07-05T19:11:57Z")

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Did anyone on this topic watch the YouTube video and listen to Bill Gates? Just curious, the discussion on geo engineering had some ‘different’ proposals. I’m sure if in 2 or 3 years if they are posted for discussion I pity the fool who does.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/34 "2021-07-05T19:24:15Z")

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There are two issues here–the existence of the concept of weather modification (real) and the claim that China is doing it to Canada now (rabid barking at the moon batshit insanity.)

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/35 "2021-07-05T20:18:22Z")

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Look what we’re doing in Texas: The problem is when weather is weaponized like the USA did in Vietnam. Hence China/Canada reference.  
Will you accept a reference from Bloomsburg?

# ‘To Prostitute the Elements’: Weather Control and Weaponisation by US Department of Defense

[Rebecca Pincus](https://www.tandfonline.com/author/Pincus%2C+Rebecca)

Pages 64-80 | Published online: 01 Mar 2017

- [Download citation](https://www.tandfonline.com/action/showCitFormats?doi=10.1080%2F07292473.2017.1295539)
- [https://doi.org/10.1080/07292473.2017.1295539](https://doi.org/10.1080/07292473.2017.1295539)
- [!([https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07292473.2017.1295539?src=recsys#](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07292473.2017.1295539?src=recsys#))

“[https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00431672.2019.1559400&ved=2ahUKEwjqmuij3szxAhU2mmoFHfysBdIQFjADegQIEBAC&usg=AOvVaw2FJXX6n9NPuSl5sUCsG6F\_](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00431672.2019.1559400&ved=2ahUKEwjqmuij3szxAhU2mmoFHfysBdIQFjADegQIEBAC&usg=AOvVaw2FJXX6n9NPuSl5sUCsG6F_)”

“[https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-12-17/has-china-mastered-weather-modification-should-we-worry&ved=2ahUKEwjqmuij3szxAhU2mmoFHfysBdIQFjAEegQIGxAC&usg=AOvVaw0XRahEGNeKdqYm9wHvFLVD](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-12-17/has-china-mastered-weather-modification-should-we-worry&ved=2ahUKEwjqmuij3szxAhU2mmoFHfysBdIQFjAEegQIGxAC&usg=AOvVaw0XRahEGNeKdqYm9wHvFLVD)”

\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ As you can see apparently everybody’s gonna want Todo it either for good or evil. Ya know?

"The following is a description, by project, of rain enhancement operations being conducted during 2018 in Texas.

**West Texas Weather Modification Association (WTWMA)**

This project, based in San Angelo, is now in its 22nd consecutive year of operation. Its target is the third largest in the state—some 6.4 million acres in west central Texas between Midland and San Angelo. The WTWMA employs a full-time meteorologist and pilots using Doppler weather radar data produced by the National Weather Service. The meteorologist is based at Mathis Field, while aircraft are located at the San Angelo airport as well as several other locations within the target area.

The project has a dual purpose: Permits are held by the WTWMA for both rain enhancement and hail suppression operations. The way in which the Association obtained its aircraft and radar, and hired its permanent staff, in 1997-98, to become self-contained as a project served as a prototype for other rain enhancement programs that materialized in Texas in subsequent years. The staff of the WTWMA can provide more information about this project (325-949-1950; [http://wtwma.com](http://wtwma.com/))."

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/36 "2021-07-05T20:29:25Z")

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Texas is doing this year too. It’s in the article. Google what states and countries have weather mods currently or upcoming.

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/37 "2021-07-05T20:40:09Z")

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Note this is a sentence not my complete reply.

'That’s really low ! Photoshop?? @Darren_Garrison  
^^^°\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_^^^  
That’s me on the right in the black and white jacket.

I was hoping for a conversation not this crap. This is a great example of why people don’t stay long.

I don’t know if why I freezing bother. Closed minds. .

[Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)

[2h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/30)

> [@shh1313](#):
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> Hopefully one of the my mods will clean the thread up.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/38 "2021-07-05T21:00:32Z")

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I…what?

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/39 "2021-07-05T21:01:31Z")

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> [@shh1313](#):
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> “[Redirect Notice](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-12-17/has-china-mastered-weather-modification-should-we-worry&ved=2ahUKEwjqmuij3szxAhU2mmoFHfysBdIQFjAEegQIGxAC&usg=AOvVaw0XRahEGNeKdqYm9wHvFLVD%E2%80%9D)

Hmmm. If you actually read the article - labeled Bloomberg Opinion and not a news article - and not just the headline, you see a link to this article:

> **[Qinghai-Tibet Artificial Rainfall Project ‘Delusional,’ Experts Say - Caixin...](https://www.caixinglobal.com/2018-11-27/qinghai-tibet-artificial-rainfall-project-delusional-experts-say-101352671.html)**
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> A plan to capture precipitation and deposit it on the world’s largest plateau has been pilloried as having ‘no scientific basis’

We’re still waiting for a cite that China is modifying the weather in Alberta. One cite that’s not CTer clickbait, that is.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/40 "2021-07-05T21:17:24Z")

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> [@shh1313](#):
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> This is a great example of why people don’t stay long.

Why makes you think people don’t stay here long?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weather-modification/945659/41 "2021-07-05T21:38:13Z")

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Sometimes they’re even helped out.

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