# Web Designers: Are We Screwed? (Court rules against Target on website accessibility) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 4, 2007, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543 "2007-10-04T20:13:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543/41 "2007-10-10T17:00:43Z")
Flash sites and pages that resize/open/otherwise fuck with my windows get closed immediately and cursed out. Really, whose bright idea was it to put Hypercard on the Web? ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543/42 "2007-10-10T17:28:25Z")
[QUOTE=Duckster] If the Target case goes through, and unless these folks change their tune, they will be out of business. [/QUOTE] I did not see, but do those people have a brick and mortar operation? Unless they do, the Target case is irrelevant to them. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543/43 "2007-10-11T16:09:33Z")
[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq] I did not see, but do those people have a brick and mortar operation? Unless they do, the Target case is irrelevant to them. [/QUOTE] The company in question is a web services company. If they are unable to create/build accessible web sites, especially id Target loses, market forces will drive them out of business. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543/44 "2007-10-11T17:21:24Z")
[QUOTE=Duckster] The company in question is a web services company. If they are unable to create/build accessible web sites, especially id Target loses, market forces will drive them out of business. [/QUOTE] You are missing the point. The Target suit only addresses what companies have to do if they also have brick and mortar operations. If they don’t, then the Target suit is not relevant to them (at least, not in the Ninth Circuit). Target’s liability in that lawsuit is **based upon the fact that, as a brick and mortar operation, they are required under ADA to do certain things.** So, in the case of the company in question, the _Target case is not in any way relevant to them whatsoever._ ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543/45 "2007-10-11T17:42:29Z")
[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq] So, in the case of the company in question, the _Target case is not in any way relevant to them whatsoever._ [/QUOTE] Legally it’s irrelevant to them. However, if the Target case causes a big drop in demand for Flash web design, the web design company is in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543/46 "2007-10-12T04:27:14Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] Legally it’s irrelevant to them. However, if the Target case causes a big drop in demand for Flash web design, the web design company is in trouble. [/QUOTE] Why? Can’t this company do traditional Web design? Don’t they know how to work with images, HTML, CSS, PHP, and all of the other tools of the Web? If they do nothing but Flash, then I’m sorry but they aren’t a Web design company. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543/47 "2007-10-12T04:33:46Z")
[QUOTE=InvisibleWombat] Why? Can’t this company do traditional Web design? Don’t they know how to work with images, HTML, CSS, PHP, and all of the other tools of the Web? [/QUOTE] Well, that was **Duckster** ’s original point. If they can’t do this well then they could be in trouble. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/web-designers-are-we-screwed-court-rules-against-target-on-website-accessibility/421543.md?page=2)