# Website Outerplaces.com: Physicists Claim that Consciousness Lives in Quantum State After Death **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 8, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991 "2015-11-08T04:08:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/121 "2015-11-10T17:45:23Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Very childish question. Then use single-syllable words when you answer. Will/can you answer the question or not? ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/122 "2015-11-10T17:53:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Then use single-syllable words when you answer. Will/can you answer the question or not? I’m also afraid that we’re not in a classroom, and nobody is marking and grading us according to our virtuosity in the use of English. Perhaps you fantasize that you are a teacher of some kind, demanding that I demonstrate my worth for you. Perhaps you are lost outside of academia and seek some familiar routine and the reassurance of your place in an intellectual pecking order. Maybe something like this [https://youtu.be/b2OLu8zi7cI?t=1m45](https://youtu.be/b2OLu8zi7cI?t=1m45) I just checked, and the only meaning of woo in a real dictionary is a verb meaning “to romance”. Of course, one of the marks of a cult is specialized jargon. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/123 "2015-11-10T17:55:34Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Very childish question. Nothing childish about wondering if you know the definition of a word when you misuse it as you have. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/124 "2015-11-10T18:01:08Z")
Nevermind eh ? Folk are alright round here, just a bit starchy round the collar. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/125 "2015-11-10T18:06:13Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > I’m also afraid that we’re not in a classroom, and nobody is marking and grading us according to our virtuosity in the use of English. Perhaps you fantasize that you are a teacher of some kind, demanding that I demonstrate my worth for you. Perhaps you are lost outside of academia and seek some familiar routine and the reassurance of your place in an intellectual pecking order. > > I just checked, and the only meaning of woo in a real dictionary is a verb meaning to romance. > > Of course, one of the marks of a cult is specialized jargon. Very sloppy misdirection, there. I didn’t ask if you knew the definition of “woo”. I asked if you knew the definition of “cult”. Fail. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/126 "2015-11-10T18:33:32Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Glad to see this realism. Not so realistic about the effects of their work, but as nobody seems to have even considered that their religious and new age enemies may be there for a scientific reason let’s not expect miracles. There’s a course for those, BTW. 😛 > > So, let’s say you’re a social scientist, and the government wants you to fuck with the minds of a rival country by pushing religion on them - how would you go about it ? My realism is that there are enough people in the world that you can, with a bit of effort, find people who believe anything, will do anything, and/or will say anything. I didn’t say that the government (any government) were employing such people. Personally I think your theory about the government employing new agers is crackers, a view currently bolstered by the complete lack of evidence for it. There are plenty of religious groups willing to go fuck with the minds of people in other countries all on their own, much like they’re fucking with the minds of people in their own countries. No reason to suspect the government in it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/127 "2015-11-10T18:49:00Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Your grammar is fine (apart from the occasional dropped capitalisation). That’s not a complaint about grammar. I mean, really, you’re heading for a Dunning-Kruger award here. As what I see the opinions of other posters so far (and in the pit), you are wrong indeed. Deal with the questions from **Czarcasm** and others. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/128 "2015-11-10T18:55:10Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > Or as Wolfgang Pauli would’ve put it, ‘This isn’t right. It’s not even wrong.’ Well, somewhat ironically, to the (not very great) extent that there’s a meaningful position articulated in the article, it actually goes straight back to Pauli (together with C.G. Jung), who indeed proposed that mind and matter might stand to one another in a relationship very much like the complementarity of quantum mechanics (what would nowadays be considered a type of dual-aspect monism). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/129 "2015-11-10T19:00:38Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Nevermind eh ? Folk are alright round here, just a bit starchy round the collar. Since you’ve disparaged the term often enough in this thread, and it pertains directly to the subject at hand, could you at least give us your definition of “science”? ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/130 "2015-11-10T19:51:45Z")
> [@IDtenT\_Error](#): > > > [@elucidator](#): > > > > So, does this explain who feeds Schrodinger’s cat? > > Doesn’t matter who you give the job to, half the time they forget. Pics plz. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/131 "2015-11-11T01:36:44Z")
“Woo” is a recent shortening of the word “woo woo,” which has meant “related to irrational superstition” for at least the past fifty years: [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/woo\_woo](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/woo_woo) > **[Definition of woo-woo | Dictionary.com](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/woo-woo)** > > Woo-woo definition at Dictionary.com, a free online dictionary with pronunciation, synonyms and translation. Look it up now! > **[What does woowoo mean? woowoo Definition. Meaning of woowoo....](http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/woowoo)** > > This Slang page is designed to explain what the meaning of woowoo is. The slang word / phrase / acronym woowoo means... . Online Slang Dictionary. A list of slang words and phrases, idioms, jargon, acronyms, and abbreviations. > ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/132 "2015-11-11T16:27:16Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Since you’ve disparaged the term often enough in this thread, and it pertains directly to the subject at hand, could you at least give us your definition of “science”? Nope, I finished with English exams years ago. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/133 "2015-11-11T16:29:01Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > My realism is that there are enough people in the world that you can, with a bit of effort, find people who believe anything, will do anything, and/or will say anything. I didn’t say that the government (any government) were employing such people. Personally I think your theory about the government employing new agers is crackers, a view currently bolstered by the complete lack of evidence for it. > > There are plenty of religious groups willing to go fuck with the minds of people in other countries all on their own, much like they’re fucking with the minds of people in their own countries. No reason to suspect the government in it. I’ve just described and linked government psy-ops based on promoting religion. You must be assuming that stopped sometime. When did it stop ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/134 "2015-11-11T16:56:30Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > I’ve just described and linked government psy-ops based on promoting religion. You must be assuming that stopped sometime. When did it stop ? You showed us something that supposedly happened in 1958. Why should we believe you when you say that scientists all over the world are continuing this more than half a century later? It’s _your_ claim-_you_ back it up. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/135 "2015-11-11T17:00:37Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Nope, I finished with English exams years ago. If you are going to disparage science, it would be nice if you didn’t steal terms from it to mislabel whatever it is you are promoting. Of course, it would be nice if you could show us that you understood what the word “science” means in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/136 "2015-11-11T17:07:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You showed us something that supposedly happened in 1958. Why should we believe you when you say that scientists all over the world are continuing this more than half a century later? It’s _your_ claim-_you_ back it up. Supposedly ? It’s there sitting in your government archives, not in the akashic records. Man, if you have no actual interest in how the world works, nobody can help you, I’m not spoon feeding you. Is this deliberate, or even feigned, ignorance, I wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/137 "2015-11-11T17:09:58Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Supposedly ? It’s there sitting in your government archives, not in the akashic records. > Man, if you have no actual interest in how the world works, nobody can help you, I’m not spoon feeding you. _Can you back up your claim that scientists all over the world are continuing to do this to this day, or not?_ ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/138 "2015-11-11T17:35:54Z")
Is there any point in saying anything to you if you think a link to a respectable history book covering government religious psy-op programs only “supposedly” shows it’s existence. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/139 "2015-11-11T17:39:10Z")
I’ll maybe come back to you after I’ve watched a documentary on the CIA and Tibetan resistance. You don’t suppose they promoted buddhist supernatural woo at all, do you ? Nah, let’s not make such suppositions. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/140 "2015-11-11T17:39:55Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Is there any point in saying anything to you if you think a link to a respectable history book covering government religious psy-op programs only “supposedly” shows it’s existence. Can you back up the specific claim you made about that program being continued by scientists all over the world, or not? Quit stalling. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991.md?page=8)