# Website Outerplaces.com: Physicists Claim that Consciousness Lives in Quantum State After Death **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 8, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991 "2015-11-08T04:08:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/141 "2015-11-11T17:46:22Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Can you back up the specific claim you made about that program being continued by scientists all over the world, or not? Quit stalling. Do you recognise evidence when it’s presented to you, or do you have a weird quantum woo attitude towards it that it sort of exists when I look at it, but sort of only “supposedly” exists when you look at it ? What do you understand by the term “all over the world”, and do you recognise psychologists, social scientists and political scientists as real scientists ? Also, do you regard absence of evidence as evidence of absence ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/142 "2015-11-11T17:51:27Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Do you recognise evidence when it’s presented to you, or do you have a weird quantum woo attitude towards it that it sort of exists when I look at it, but sort of only “supposedly” exists when you look at it ? > > What do you understand by the term “all over the world”, and do you recognise psychologists, social scientists and political scientists as real scientists ? > > Also, do you regard absence of evidence as evidence of absence ? You have provided no such evidence to back up the claim you made. Period. I will have to assume that you _have_ no such evidence, which would explain all the silly stall tactics you’ve engaged in so far. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/143 "2015-11-11T18:35:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You have provided no such evidence to back up the claim you made. Period. I will have to assume that you _have_ no such evidence, which would explain all the silly stall tactics you’ve engaged in so far. Can’t give you an answer if you don’t define your terms can I ? Would you count someone engaged in a psychological operation, but who has no formal science qualification, as a scientist ? I’m enjoying your efforts to use a dominant and demanding tone. Period. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/144 "2015-11-11T18:53:26Z")
Done listening to your baseless spew about random woo crap and your excuses for not backing it up. Can scientists provide any evidence that consciousness can be detected outside the human body at all, after death or no? I think this would need to happen before we even begin to speculate about it existing in some “quantum state” ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/145 "2015-11-11T19:05:37Z")
What woo crap ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/146 "2015-11-11T19:10:37Z")
I mean, what does the term “spiritual quantum state” even mean when no one has ever shown that a “spirit” exists in the first place. The last two words in the phrase give unearned legitimacy to the first, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/147 "2015-11-11T19:37:45Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > Supposedly ? It’s there sitting in your government archives, not in the akashic records. > Man, if you have no actual interest in how the world works, nobody can help you, I’m not spoon feeding you. Is this deliberate, or even feigned, ignorance, I wonder. Knock it off. It is one thing to avoid answering questions. It is another to do so while being insulting. Stop. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/148 "2015-11-12T04:27:40Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Knock it off. > > It is one thing to avoid answering questions. It is another to do so while being insulting. > > Stop. > > [/Moderating] His tone was entirely insulting - crap this, woo that, blah blah. Not even oblique about it. In fact, _not that I do actually believe any “woo”_, the very term woo is a pejorative bandied about by the self-styled intellectually superior, so anyone starting out using that term has already made it clear that they are taking a derisory tone from the outset. It’s the “critical thinker’s” version of nigger or faggot. Plus, as you can read, I wasn’t avoiding anything, merely asking for clarification on terms to avoid later quibbling. He didn’t want to do that. No problem, nobody’s forcing him to be bothered. Thanks I’m done with your awful thread so someone can get in a final “thank god” or “ner ner” ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/149 "2015-11-12T04:36:16Z")
I was quite happy to acknowledge I was sidetracking from the OP and stop, but people insist on setting the world free from the “woo” and chasing any scent of it, even when it’s not there. I’ve seen it so many times I’m tempted to give them what they want so badly, why deny someone that opportunity to feel like they making a difference and setting the world to rights ? So fuck it, yeah, there’s life after death and the soul is imprinted on the quantum field. You’ve only got 6 billion religious wooey people to set straight after you’re done with me. Hop to it. No, really, I’d love to play but it’s too predictable. Ner ner. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/150 "2015-11-12T09:26:12Z")
Well, that’s _us_ told. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/151 "2015-11-12T14:23:02Z")
Do you have any substantive argument to make or evidence to present? At all? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991/152 "2015-11-14T16:33:27Z")
> [@inscrutable](#): > > “Quantum Leap” was a pretty good show… Perhaps, but to you really believe Science has developed a way to send a man’s consciousness into the past and implant it temporarily into the mind of another? I didn’t think so, though **MrQwertyasd** may disagree. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/website-outerplaces-com-physicists-claim-that-consciousness-lives-in-quantum-state-after-death/736991.md?page=7)