# Wednesday's Child is full of Woe. But I'm looking forward to new Wednesday series. Addams Family spinoff \[Open Spoilers season 1\]\[Season 2 Part 1 August 6th 2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [June 7, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793 "2022-06-07T02:18:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/181 "2023-01-06T04:31:26Z")
Start with [THIS.](https://youtube.com/watch?v=YIQR_3TPtJw&feature=share) but also check out the original 1962 version by Ronnie Cook & The Gaylads: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ke9mddHlnCk/maxresdefault.jpg "Ronnie Cook & The Gaylads - Goo Goo Muck") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke9mddHlnCk) ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/182 "2023-01-06T18:49:59Z")
Season two is a go: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/j_MuZmJNirw/maxresdefault.jpg "Wednesday Addams | Season 2 Announcement | Netflix") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_MuZmJNirw) Brian ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/183 "2023-01-06T19:07:32Z")
Woot! ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/184 "2023-01-06T19:43:43Z")
That’s great news, you would have expected it to be automatic but even massive hits are not safe at Netflix. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/185 "2023-01-06T21:12:22Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Yes, which would require her to like girls. Which she has shown zero indication of doing, despite having ample chance. The only boys she’s shown interest in are the ones pursuing her. You guys need to hang out with young people. Whether they’re straight, bi or gay isn’t that big of a deal, especially with girls. It really wouldn’t be out of character for someone her age to end up dating a girl, especially one she has chemistry with. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/186 "2023-01-06T21:16:12Z")
The actors had chemistry, the relationship between the characters was toxic and abusive. My objection to that pairing is not only that neither of them has shown romantic interest in each other or any women, but they are the absolutely worst two people to be pairing up. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/187 "2023-01-06T23:43:38Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > It really wouldn’t be out of character for someone her age to end up dating a girl, especially one she has chemistry with. I think it’s out of character for Wednesday to date _anybody_. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/188 "2023-01-07T02:50:21Z")
Can’t wait! ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/189 "2023-01-07T03:13:23Z")
I enjoyed the show quite a bit overall, although I think it was probably a few episodes longer than it needed to be. The last episode, in particular, really dropped off, with the low point being the moment when incredibly resourceful and tough and unsentimental and kung-fu-fighting Wednesday gets clonked over the head by a shovel wielded by a monologuing normie. And there’s also an extent to which the whole show felt a bit like it was cheating. Like, the whole tone and demeanor was all death-and-torture-and-crime-and-darkness, with lots of references to Wednesday (and her family) being all dark and death-obsessed… but what we actually saw her do on screen (particularly once she arrived at Nevermore) was just be goth-y. It’s like, they want her to be the kind of character who would genuinely do murderous and psychotic things… but not actually do them, because then she wouldn’t be sympathetic. A weird comparison, maybe, but kind of like Gru in Despicable Me, who is a “supervillain” who never actually does anything that would make us lose sympathy for him. But, overall, very fun show, particularly great lead performance, and I’m eager for season 2. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/190 "2023-01-07T03:57:32Z")
The vibe I’ve always gotten from Wednesday Addams, and which I believe best suits her character, is macabre and antisocial with a fixation on death—though _not_ herself murderous. However, with hormones raging in her now adolescent brain and body, she appears to have emergent feelings of desire to connect with someone(s) other than herself and even budding feelings of low-grade romantic love. These are feelings that she’s not comfortable with, does not welcome, and tries to suppress—unsuccessfully. She has inner turmoil that she is not used to and is perplexed by. This is portrayed subtly and quite well by the actress, and fine direction. Great news that a 2nd season has been green-lit. Hopefully we’ll see more of Wednesday’s inner turmoil explored. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/191 "2023-01-07T14:32:28Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > but what we actually saw her do on screen (particularly once she arrived at Nevermore) was just be goth-y. It’s like, they want her to be the kind of character who would genuinely do murderous and psychotic things… but not actually do them That’s what happens when you take the rest of the family away. She has always done those things to Pugsley, who basically just shrugged them off. It also comes of better when its a little girl doing it and not a teenager played by a 20 year old. ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/192 "2023-01-30T04:44:11Z")
I’m going post this here, as well. The original Wednesday, Lisa Loring, has died. > **[Lisa Loring Dies: Actor & Original Wednesday Addams Was 64](https://deadline.com/2023/01/lisa-loring-dead-actor-original-wednesday-addams-1235243958/)** > > Lisa Loring, best known for bring Wednesday Addams to life in The Addams Family sitcom in the mid-1960s, has died. She was 64. Loring’s close friend Laure Jacobson shared in a Facebook post n… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/193 "2023-01-30T05:00:19Z")
Damn, so young. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/194 "2023-01-30T05:12:06Z")
That’s sad. I’m sure she got a brief boost of notoriety from the show. At least, I certainly googled “whatever happened to…”. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/195 "2023-01-30T05:18:03Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > At least, I certainly googled “whatever happened to…”. Married at 15. Mother soon after. Years in the porn industry (behind the camera). Not sure if it has anything to do with being a child actor, but like many others in that position, her path was a rough one. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/196 "2023-01-30T08:15:29Z")
Awww. I was hoping they could work a cameo in for her in season 2, then another for Nichole Fugere, then we’d have all of the live-action Wednesdays seen. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/197 "2023-03-14T01:03:54Z")
Speaking of _Beetlejuice_: > **[‘Beetlejuice’ sequel, in development hell for over 30 years, finds its savior...](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/beetlejuice-sequel-development-hell-over-141541532.html)** > > When something is clearly working, sometimes it’s best to stick with the formula.  Twenty-year-old sensation Jenna Ortega is said to be securing a deal to star in director Tim Burton’s “Beetlejuice… If this goes through, she’ll be playing Lydia’s daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/198 "2023-03-14T01:08:37Z")
Next up, a project with Cher? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/199 "2023-03-14T02:34:01Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Speaking of _Beetlejuice_: Beetlejuice? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/200 "2023-03-14T02:51:23Z")
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