# Wednesday's Child is full of Woe. But I'm looking forward to new Wednesday series. Addams Family spinoff \[Open Spoilers season 1\]\[Season 2 Part 1 August 6th 2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [June 7, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793 "2022-06-07T02:18:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/161 "2023-01-04T19:58:36Z")
> [@epbrown](#): > > Though they grew to be friends, they showed no romantic inclination to each other or any other females, and between the two of them have romantic interactions or demonstrated inclinations towards a total of _five_ males. (And the Wednesday character would have no issue stating her preferences.) I’m not sure why _five_ males means anything. You’ve heard of bisexuality, no? Did Wednesday ever actually state any preference? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/162 "2023-01-04T20:05:59Z")
I’ll reserve judgement for any such relationship. Depends on the writing, acting, and chemistry. Maybe it could work, maybe not. IMO Bianca would work better as a potential partner for romance with Wednesday, based on season 1 chemistry. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/163 "2023-01-04T20:11:56Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > Did Wednesday ever actually state any preference? Nope, but she’s clearly demonstrated one. This seems like the reverse of the old trope that a lesbian is just waiting for the right guy to “straighten her out.” Over 50% of her classmates were girls, one of them the roommate people are trying to ship her with, and she only showed interest in two guys. How many times does she have to **not** pick a girl before she gets to be straight? ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/164 "2023-01-04T20:13:31Z")
> [@epbrown](#): > > Nope, but she’s clearly demonstrated one. No, she hasn’t. Liking boys doesn’t preclude an attraction to girls. You’ve heard of bisexuality, right? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/165 "2023-01-04T22:07:42Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > You’ve heard of bisexuality, right? Yes, which would require her to like girls. Which she has shown zero indication of doing, despite having ample chance. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/166 "2023-01-05T02:50:07Z")
Boys have shown an interest in her. She hasn’t shown a lot of interest in boys. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/167 "2023-01-05T03:14:22Z")
Why does there need to be a love interest at all? The character can stand on her own. Pairing off characters for the sake of pairing off characters, i.e. using the old ‘boy meets girl’ or even ‘girl meets girl’ trope, is just a sign of bad or desperate writing. Why make this any more like the old CW than it already is? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/168 "2023-01-05T03:47:06Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Why does there need to be a love interest at all? Agreed. Admittedly the line about “my first kiss and …” was a good one, but the character doesn’t need romance. Whatever the orientation the character is better off avoiding the formula, and there is NO romantic chemistry between her and Enid. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/169 "2023-01-05T03:53:32Z")
She specifically tells her mother she has no interest in following her footsteps, “I will never fall in love, be housewife, or have children.” I could see her as an ace easier than shipping her with anyone, male, female, or undead. To change the subject, I’ve been puzzling over why Naomi J. Ogawa (Yoko) gets starring credit. She has about two lines among the eight episodes. I am wondering if she had more scenes but they were edited out. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/170 "2023-01-05T04:03:39Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Boys have shown an interest in her. She hasn’t shown a lot of interest in boys. You know what Adult Wednesday Addams says: “Do you know what it’s like to be shot thirty-seven times in the chest? Thirty-seven bullets. In your chest. It feels like your heart becomes a thousand fireworks. Your body is merely a vessel for that one moment; it lasts a fraction of a second before you perish, but it feels like lifetimes. That is what love feels like…. Why don’t you call me when you know what love feels like?” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/171 "2023-01-05T04:06:26Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > I could see her as an ace easier than shipping her with anyone, male, female, or undead. Being ACE doesn’t stop fans from shipping characters. 🤷 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/172 "2023-01-05T04:10:23Z")
As the quote in my post #158 says. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/173 "2023-01-05T04:19:31Z")
Yup. I totally agree with your post. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/174 "2023-01-05T04:25:37Z")
ACE? What? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/175 "2023-01-05T05:31:23Z")
It’s teenspeak for Asexual. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/176 "2023-01-05T06:23:51Z")
I’ve heard “ace” (for asexual) used casually by people who are now closer to 40 than to 10, who were surprised i didn’t understand them. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/177 "2023-01-05T06:32:51Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Further, it says: > > > [Canon](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Canon) and authorial intent do not dictate people’s shipping preference. You’d be hard-pressed to find _anything_ that honestly puts any sort of restraint on shipping preference. Characters may be shipped despite being […] Or both actually [being the same character](https://fanlore.org/wiki/Oncest). ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/178 "2023-01-05T06:44:12Z")
Gives self-love a whole new meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/179 "2023-01-05T09:27:32Z")
Like Loki/Sophie? I mean, if ever there were characters in love with themselves… ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793/180 "2023-01-05T22:30:29Z")
I think I may have to give The Cramps another look after being exposed to the coolness of “Goo Goo Muck” by this show. Up to this point, my familiarity with the band’s music lies almost entirely with the snippet of “Bikini Girls With Machine Guns” that was played on _Beavis and Butt-Head_ over and over. I do remember being in the record store across from my college dorm one time doing my very best to convince a friend to buy a Cramps album so that I could then borrow it and see what they were all about. Ah, if only we had had the practically endless capacity for exploring new music risk-free back then that we have now! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wednesdays-child-is-full-of-woe-but-im-looking-forward-to-new-wednesday-series-addams-family-spinoff-open-spoilers-season-1-season-2-part-1-august-6th-2025/965793.md?page=10)